Re: SR20DE Vs SR20DET 4 next project - Help + Differences

[steven.taylor]

Daniel, I guess your problem with an r180 lsd would not nessacarily be breaking the r180 diff but more the r180 half shafts. Ive had the 4.11 locker r180 in for a while now and its stod up to the task but ive snapped half shafts. I guess with the r200 upgrade your added half shaft strength might warrant the conversion when chasing some big ponies........... Steve. Daniel Kroehn wrote: Don't get me wrong all you guys with R200's out there, but has anyone ever had problems with an R180LSD breaking before?  I haven't heard of one breaking yet, so I don't consider it neccessary to go to the trouble of fitting the R200.  I guess with mega horsepower the R180 would probably break, but that would probably be upwards of 400hp or so????????Interested to know what others think. Daniel Kroehn ----- Original Message ----- From: FJ510 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 6:58 PM Subject: Re: SR20DE Vs SR20DET 4 next project - Help + Differences  anyone else notice something i thought was quite good about this car (other than the obvious)the guy is making 204kW at the wheels which is a lot more than a lot of us may be getting andhe is still running an R180.  that makes me happy coz i know that they can obviously handle morepower than i thought and save the expensive upgrade to R200   ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Kroehn To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:21 AM Subject: Re: SR20DE Vs SR20DET 4 next project - Help + Differences  The latest zoom has a datsun 1600 racing car that had a SR20DE in it.  The guy decided it didn't have enough power so he strapped a GTiR turbo on it (with neccessary upgrades to the fuel system etc) and it now makes  204kW at the wheels.  Pretty impressive! Daniel Kroehn ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:31 AM Subject: RE: SR20DE Vs SR20DET 4 next project - Help + Differences  regarding difference between de and det:no turbo!!!det has piston jets (for cooling), compression for de is 9.5, det 8.3, injector size, de runs off dizzy, det has direct ignition (coil packs), exhaust cam duration bigger, det has larger oil pump, and also a different front pulley.  Then there is things like plenum, exhaust manifold, ecu, intercooler, sump with oil supply lines to turbo, earlier turbos have water cooling to turbo, I don't think (and may be wrong) the newer ones run water cooling to the bearing, gear box for det I believe has larger input shaft and bigger bearings, and there are probably things I have forgotten.  Also, there is the s13 motor and the s14 motor, which have different port design, and the s14 has vct (both det and de) on the intake cam which give better bottom end response without suffering power loss up top. To turbo the de is most certainly a option though.  In the last issue of zoom, there is a 1600 sports sedan, running a de with 14 psi boost, reliable putting out something like 300kw at the f/wheel (206kw at the wheels).  All he really did was intercooler, fit up 800cc injectors and custom fuel rail, motec prog management, and an engine oil cooler.  He has left compression at 9.5, and all internals standard!!   When you think about it, all the turbo bits and pieces are interchangeable with the no turbo motor anyway, so picking these up over the next year, and then fitting them up when you want to go turbo would not be too hard.  It's just that you would have to do things like your exhaust, and intake plumbing all over again. regards Greg -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nick Hering - Ferrit Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2001 1:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SR20DE Vs SR20DET 4 next project - Help + Differences   List, was just wondering for my next project ( I pick it up next week ), would it be cheaper in the long run to just buy an SR20DET ($2400) - SSS Automotive, or i would settle for an SR20DE ($750) - SSS Automotive ---- + factor in the fact of insurance etc for an 18yr old. But also factor in that i would be looking to turbo in the next few years. Also - what are the major differences between the DET and the DE apart from the blindingly obvious. Thanks.Nick Hering The Ferrit '71 Datsun 1600 Z18ET Turbo Support http://www.ozdat.comhttp://www.datrats.com.auhttp://www.datnet.org  Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. 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