Re: Rear Wheel Alignment Settings

[Mr-Freeze]

Cam increase your neg camber to 4.5, drop your toe out to what the rear is(SHHH) and leave the 5mm caster   Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: cm510 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Alignment Settings I'm running 3deg neg camber, 2mm toe out, 5deg positive caster on the front, you'd reckon that'd have em loaded up a bit :)) Cam CM510 www.sprite.com.au/cm510 ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Alignment Settings > It must be due to the almost zero castor angle, zero toe, and the old-fashioned steering box. > > In a Datsun, the tyres just roll along, basically just stopping the nose from dragging along the ground until you come to a corner. > > A bit of toe-out, or even toe-in, should pre-load the tyres so that they can go up to full grip levels quickly. > > It is strange that all Datsuns have zero toe. All the other cars that I've seen have some toe-in or out. > Must give it a try soon... > > Nick > > > > From: "Andrew Greenbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Alignment Settings > > Date: 19/02/2002 14:13:28 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > No its not imaginary - there is a dynamic lag involved between > > steering wheel angle and the generation of tyre force which is > > inherent (but can be made worse through design, tyre choice, > > suspension settings, steering etc). > > > > eg a tyre which generates its peak force at a lower slip angle > > "speeds up" steering, because it takes less time for it to get to its > > maximum force (the downside is such a tyre may also "let go" > > more quickly also). It is for these reasons that handling gets > > sharper when adding performance tyres, as compared to borrowing > > your nan's 165/75 R13's. > > > > Andrew > > > > > hey nick, > > > > > > you're exactly right...I thought I was dreaming that 'hook up' time. It's > > > as if cause the front tyre is so cambered, it sort of nearly under-steers > > > until you get enough body roll to kick in the full tyre contact. > > > > > > > > > Cam > > > CM510 > > > www.sprite.com.au/cm510 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:48 PM > > > Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Alignment Settings > > > > > > > > > > My car also corners very well for what it is. > > > > > > > > One thing that interests me at the moment is the time taken from steering > > > input to steering effect. My car takes a significant time to 'hook up' at > > > the front even with a stiff front sway bar. > > > > Cars with 'good handling' have very small times between steering input and > > > effect. > > > > I am considering a bit of toe-out at the front to make the car more > > > 'twitchy' and hook up faster. > > > > > > > > With the rear end of a 1600 you have to consider the rear toe-change that > > > occurs with suspension movement. > > > > A small amount of toe-in at the rear will convert to toe-out on the > > > outside wheel under cornering. > > > > This is good for a good driver, but if you lift off and, god forbid, brake > > > hard mid-corner the rear wheel toes back in and you get big time oversteer. > > > > > > > > Nick > > > > Live-Axle Stanza > > > > > > > > > > From: "cm510" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Alignment Settings > > > > > Date: 19/02/2002 12:28:54 > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > That makes sense. > > > > > > > > > > I'll have to take some measurements and check it tonight.  The car is > > > > > handling very well on the front....to the point where you turn in that > > > hard > > > > > that the front goes through the corner and the rear will suddenly break > > > away > > > > > (over-steer) > > > > > > > > > > No doubt sway bar and spring/shocks on the rear will affect this as > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > Cam > > > > > CM510 > > > > > www.sprite.com.au/cm510 > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Andrew Greenbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:05 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Alignment Settings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Cam, > > > > > > > > > > > > I cant help with any specific rear toe settings, but rear toe-in is > > > > > > more stable than rear toe-out, as the rear wheels provide a > > > > > > stabilising moment trying to turn the car towards the outside of the > > > > > > corner (and so understeer if taken too far) > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for some pointers with the rear wheel alignment settings for > > > a > > > > > > > 1600....more specifically the toe setting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With a slotted rear crossmember, I can get excellent adjustment of > > > both > > > > > > > camber and toe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Camber, I'm going to run between Zero and neg .5 deg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But toe ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I correct in saying some toe in on the rear will give extra > > > > > stabilaty? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cam > > > > > > > CM510 > > > > > > > www.sprite.com.au/cm510 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message was sent through MyMail http://www.mymail.com.au > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message was sent through MyMail http://www.mymail.com.au > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List   Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send  submissions to  [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/membersozdat@datascribe.com.au/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/membersozdat@datascribe.com.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------