Thanks for that guys. Makes sense that the carrier thingo is too long.

FYI I used the pressure plate it got with the L28 which I assume (didn't 
say) is from the L28, however I used the L24/standard 240Z 5-speed 
carrier thingo. That'd do it.

So I'll just need a shorter carrier bearing or put on my old pressure 
plate?
Regards,

Dave

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 8/30/02, 12:20:42 AM, "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
regarding RE: 240Z clutch backwards?!?!:


> Yep, Richard is correct here, but you'd think if the carrier was too long
> that fitting the slave rod etc would have been a bit difficult. Usually 
if
> the carrier is way too long, the release fork will pop off the pivot bolt
> when you engage the splines and then you cant get the trannie located all
> the way in - I guess if you get it in far enough to get the bolts started
> and then you can wind them up with a ratshit to pull the trannie into 
place.
> That would certainly jam things up against the pressure plate pretty bad.
> David did say in his post that he had a bit of difficulty getting it all 
to
> line up and the box to locate...

> I assumed the all of the original bits were used, but it could be that 
the
> 280Z pressure plate and release bearing was used and not the 240Z, and 
then
> may be you've got different release arm etc coming into play, didn't 240Z
> have an adjustable arrangement like the original 1600's. You've got to be 
so
> careful mixing and matching Nissan clutch stuff. I hope this is the 
problem
> as it wont involve a lot of expense to correct, cause the problem that I
> originally thought of is not a nice one to recover from in most cases.

> regards
> Terry



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Clough
> Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2002 10:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: 240Z clutch backwards?!?!


> Sounds like the length of your throwout bearing carrier is too long for 
the
> pressure plate thickness.

> It is a pretty common problem to have a pressure plate that is already
> thrown on assembly, if the bearing carrier is too long. It sounds even 
more
> likely as you say that you had some difficulty pushing the engine and
> gearbox together.  Pressure plates and bearing carriers have to be a 
matched
> pair.

> Why does it engage when you hit the pedal?  My guess it the already 
thrown
> pressure plate allows the thowout race carrier to move further forward 
and
> connect with the clutch plate, spinning it up, or "engaging" it.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2002 14:28 PM
> Subject: 240Z clutch backwards?!?!


> > Guys,
> >
> > Ok there the story (i tend to write them long-winded sorry):
> >
> > L24 died, brought L28 (supercharged but thats a different issue).
> > Got a clutch with the L28 took it to local clutch place. "yes sir
> > pressure plate is fine, you'll need a new friction plate". Brought new
> > friction plate.
> > Assembled engine/clutch, notes: didn't clean my hands before putting on
> > the clutch so there might be a smear of grease (very light smear) on the
> > flywheels side, and also had a bit of difficulty getting the engine onto
> > g-box (as you do) so the engine ended up being partially supported by the
> > g/box for like a couple of seconds.
> > Anyway, finally put the whole thing together and kicked it into life,
> > loud as hell coz no exhaust and heres the punch line:
> >
> > The clutch it working backwards!!
> >
> > If you don't have your foot on the clutch you can change gears and put it
> > fully into gear etc etc. and if its in gear when you put your foot on the
> > clutch the car starts to move! Ie the clutch starts to but doesn't fully
> > engage while PUSHING ON THE CLUTCH!
> >
> > So my question is: What the hell have i done?! How is this possible?!?!
> >
> > The clutch place said it might be the spline in the middle of the
> > friction place (brand new) has been bent by the weight of the engine and
> > the friction plate is now sitting crocked or something? I dunno.. it just
> > doesn't seem possible to me. Oh and the actuator arm moves correctly and
> > everything and i checked its pointed on the pivot point correctly before
> > assembly.
> >
> > Any clues guys? I imagine i'll be pulling the engine out.. again..
> > grrrrrrrr...
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >



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