Cam, Bummer. You machine didn't look thaat low though, whats the length from wheel centre to guard (can't remember the term for it)? Regards,
Dave >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 12/15/02, 1:46:39 PM, "Cam McKinnon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Handling - best if not on the bump stops: > Just thought I'd pass on a bit of a tip for those lowering their 1600 (and > 180B's I suppose). > Was out in the shed last night with the plan of replacing the rubber > bushings in the rear end with nolothane and thought I'd just check out wheel > alignment/travel with the springs and shocks out of the rear end. > I got a bit of a shock (pardon the pun) to find that with the lower rear > control arms jacked up to a point where the wheel normally sat in the > gaurd....it was locked solid onto the bump stops. > All this time I've been complaining of 'go-cart' like over-steer and a super > rough ride, to the point that the car felt like it's only suspension > compliance was that of the rear tyres. > Just goes to show, that even when you think you've got it all sorted out, > something always turns up. > p.s. Terry, I calculated the rear springs to be 965 lb/in (250lb/in at the > wheel), that shouldn't be too over the top for the track should it? > Cheers, > Cam > CM510 > www.cm510.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 1:29 PM > Subject: RE: Ford vs Charger was My SSS pic > > Rick wrote: > > How many 510SSS's were available to be bought from the factory dealers in > > Australia? > > Hmm None, as far as I know. > > > > Rick, As you already know I'm not buying into the general augment (still > > reading with interest though), but this statement is not correct. > > > > There were at least 30, may be 35 510SSS in total sold by Lennocks and 083 > > (Yass) between 69-71 and mainly sold to Greg Cornock's mates. There are > only > > 3 of them still known to me that are on the road today - what's left of > mine > > (originally sold to Ray Gulson, cream), the Bob Bink car (red), and the > > Steve Nimmo car, also red. I have no idea what Gerry Ball did with his > cars > > but he got the majority of them, and also destroyed the majority of them. > > Also, I haven't run into Shane (from 083) lately to ask him if he knows if > > any of his are still in someone's shed gathering cobwebs. > > > > Errol if he could be bothered may have some more info on what happened to > > the Cornock cars as he was in Canberra in those days flogging great lights > > and sound systems to us. > > > > regards > > Terry (we're getting as bad as the US folk who talk about what happened to > > the BRE cars all the time - gets boring after a while) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick White > > Sent: Sunday, 15 December 2002 5:45 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Ford vs Charger was My SSS pic > > > > > > Tom. > > Also my main point in the comment I made was. > > None, so which car is rarer in Australia?? > > Name another country where the GTHO and the Charger has the following that > > Datsun 1600's have. > > None?? > > How many 510SSS's were available to be bought from the factory dealers in > > Australia? > > Hmm None, as far as I know. > > > > My comment had nothing to do with different strokes for different folks, I > > was staing a fact. > > This is as far as I remember, a DATSUN list, and I was getting sick of > > hearing about GTHO's and Chargers being refered to as the best and > fastest, > > in their class maybee, but not in the same class as a DATSUN 1600 or > > 1600SSS, these cars have 4 less cylinders than what these people have been > > trying to rate them against. > > How can you compare a muscle car to a Datsun 1600?? > > You can't so why are these people wasting DATSUN list time talking trash? > > > > Once gain this will be my last comment direct to you, so as I have been > > doing as you requested a couple of weeks ago so bluntly, off this list, > > direct to me, so know one could see what a nob you really are, requesting > > that I do not talk to you or about me, you should also do as you requested > > me to do, please do not talk to me or about me again thanks. > > Rick White. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tom Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 7:14 PM > > Subject: Re: Ford vs Charger was My SSS pic > > > > > > > This type of comment really gets on my nerves! Four cylinder and rotary > > > enthusiasts have to fight for respect in the modified/drag/show scene > > > because the V8 crowd are typically an ignorant bunch and generally don't > > > have any interest in learning about different things. I think that it's > > > really discouraging to hear a four cylinder enthusiast make equally > > > ignorant and inflamatory comments about V8's and muscle cars. Different > > > strokes for different folks Rick, not everyone loves 4's and despises > > > 8's: get used to it. > > > > > > Also, the GTHO's and Chargers etc may very well have the same base as > > > the family versions, but even your precious > > > SSS is essentially an identical car to a stock P510 shopping trolley > > > with some minor mechanical modifications. They aren't just fast and > > > rare cars, they also represent the essence of the Australian muscle car > > > era, which is where a lot of their appeal comes from. > > > > > > - Tom > > > > > > Rick White wrote: > > > > > > >Also, > > > >One small point here. > > > >How many GTHO's and Valiant Chargers were available to be bought from > the > > > >factory dealers brand new in Australia?? > > > > > > > >How many 510SSS's were available to be bought from the factory dealers > in > > > >Australia? > > > > > > > >Hmm I think I would take 510SSS anyday, (because of their real rarity) > > over > > > >the normal everyday glamorised shopping vehicles some people have been > > > >wasting list time talking about. > > > >Later. > > > >Rick White. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Rick White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 8:40 PM > > > >Subject: Ford vs Charger was My SSS pic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Guys, > > > >>All I can say about the Ford versus Charger Coversation is who cares. > > > >>Later. > > > >>Rick. > > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > > >>From: "Paul Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >>Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 7:23 PM > > > >>Subject: Re: My SSS pics uploaded correctly > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>I thought it was the Charger? The thing about the Ford is that it > won > > > >>>Bathurst and the Charger could only get 3rd, so I guess thats where > the > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>hype > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>came from that the GTHO was the quickest. > > > >>> > > > >>>From: Paul Stanley > > > >>> > > > >>>----- Original Message ----- > > > >>>From: Rob P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >>>Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 11:04 AM > > > >>>Subject: Re: My SSS pics uploaded correctly > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>I agree Duncan, these things are only worth what an ENTHUSIAST will > pay > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>for > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>them. To your average un-informed dude, these cars look like old > 1970's > > > >>>clunkers. It's the legend, the aura that surrounds them that cranks > up > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >the > > > > > > > > > > > >>>price and gets people paying many times more than the original > purchase > > > >>>cost. For example, the Ford GTHO "shaker" was the fastest four-door > > > >>>production car in the world for 11 years. Whether that refers to top > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >speed > > > > > > > > > > > >>>or acceleration, I don't know but personally I don't like them (too > big > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>and > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>heavy = crappy handling). The 1600 SSS reputation was built on > triumphs > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >in > > > > > > > > > > > >>>racing and rallying against more expensive cars and often better > funded > > > >>>rival teams. This is why it is a recognised classic. Although the > > > >>>wine-quaffing, Porsche-driving weekend racers may snub their noses at > > it > > > >>>when one is entered in a road rally against them, I think that even > > they > > > >>>acknowledge its racing heritage. > > > >>>If I had $10 000 I'd spend it on something other than a 510 SSS. I'd > > put > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>it > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>towards a 240Z or a late-model 180SX. > > > >>> > > > >>>Cheers, > > > >>>Rob P > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >>> From: Duncan Shillito > > > >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 5:40 AM > > > >>> Subject: Re: My SSS pics uploaded correctly > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Help me, > > > >>> > > > >>> Don't get me wrong - I'd buy one if I found one for sale - but > what > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >is > > > > > > > > > > > >>so > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>special about a P510SSS ? Let's face, they're NOT a Falcon GT (where > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >stock > > > > > > > > > > > >>>original is worth more than modified and big name people invest mega > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >bucks > > > > > > > > > > > >>>in them). All I see is a couple of small SU type carbys on an L16 > with > > a > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>bit > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>more compression and a great looking dash. Interior is nothing > special, > > > >>>wheels & brakes are the same, same floor shift 4 speed as the > standard > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >510 > > > > > > > > > > > >>>etc.. > > > >>> > > > >>> I am aware of supply vs. demand, but even in today's special events > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >such > > > > > > > > > > > >>>as Targa Tassie and Classic Adelaide, Datto people are calling their > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >cars > > > > > > > > > > > >>>H510SSS with L18, even though they are P510s (originally fitted with > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>L16s). > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> I see some of these bullshit prices floating around for P510SSS > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>equipment > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>that's not that special and yes I'm confused. > > > >>> > > > >>> Rick, are you missing the SSS rocker cover (with three full ribs)? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >Maybe > > > > > > > > > > > >>I > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>didn't quite pick it up in the photos. Nice original find anyway. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Dunc. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> >From: "maldat" > > > >>> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> >To: > > > >>> >Subject: Re: My SSS pics uploaded correctly > > > >>> >Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 01:19:03 +1300 > > > >>> > > > > >>> >Rick whats your address and i'll post you a 510/610 sss oil sender > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >that > > > > > > > > > > > >>>one you have is ugly big and not stock looking.. > > > >>> > > > > >>> >See I'm not a over priced person ,,just a person that knows if you > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >what > > > > > > > > > > > >>a > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>nice car and it costs.Parts are only worth what someone wants to > pay.. > > > >>> >I have been asked a few times if I want to sell my 510SSS spot > light > > > >>>grille for $500usd,and the guy knows I only have one light not two > but > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >the > > > > > > > > > > > >>>grille is 100% mint with badge..I dont really want to sell it,,but > hey > > > >>>everything has a price!(thinking hard,HHmmm,I'll never have anther > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >one,,so > > > > > > > > > > > >>>whats it worth?) > > > >>> > > > > >>> >Infact Rick would you like a later model rubber covered one or a > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >plain > > > > > > > > > > > >>>steel one? > > > >>> > > > > >>> >malcolm > > > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- > > > >>> > From: Rick White > > > >>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 8:43 PM > > > >>> > Subject: Re: My SSS pics uploaded correctly > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Terry. > > > >>> > Yes that is what I was trying to explain to Malcolm a couple of > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >weeks > > > > > > > > > > > >>>ago when he said the two were the same. > > > >>> > As you see they are not. > > > >>> > I was seriously stuck for that oil pressure switch that is in my > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >SSS, > > > > > > > > > > > >>it > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>took them ages to find it, it supposably was the last New Old Stock > one > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>that > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>Nissan in Perth had. > > > >>> > I hope it never breaks, otherwise I may have to take you up on > that > > > >>>offer. > > > >>> > My wagon pics have been there for like over 8 months, took you a > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >wile > > > > > > > > > > > >>to > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>go in and check them out. > > > >>> > How close is my 1970 SSS to the one you owned, going by the > pics?? > > > >>> > Later. > > > >>> > Rick White. > > > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- > > > >>> > From: Terry Rudd > > > >>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 3:01 PM > > > >>> > Subject: RE: My SSS pics uploaded correctly > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Rick, > > > >>> > > > > >>> > L18SSS and L16SSS oil pressure senders are the same and therefore > > > >>>identical - I have a spare or two somewhere under the house if you > get > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>stuck > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>for one. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > I like your wagon, I'm seriously going to look out for one some > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >day - > > > > > > > > > > > >>>the oil pressure sender in the wagon is a stock switch - suitable > only > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >for > > > > > > > > > > > >>>an idiot dash light. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > regards > > > >>> > Terry > > > >>> > -----Original Message----- > > > >>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick White > > > >>> > Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2002 3:21 PM > > > >>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> > Subject: Re: My SSS pics uploaded correctly > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Kristian, > > > >>> > The one on the SSS is for a guage, not a idiot light, so if you > > have > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >a > > > > > > > > > > > >>>guage then yes it is a good replacement. > > > >>> > Later. > > > >>> > Rick White. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > > >>> > Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> > Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> > No unauthorised redistribution of this email > > > >>> > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > > >>> > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > > >>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > > >>> > Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> > Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> > No unauthorised redistribution of this email > > > >>> > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > > >>> > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > > >>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > >--membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>> >OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > > >>> >Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> >Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> >No unauthorised redistribution of this email > > > >>> >http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > > >>> >http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > > >>> >http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > >>> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- > > > >>-- > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>-- > > > >>> Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online > > > > >> --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>> OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > > > >>> Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> No unauthorised redistribution of this email > > > >>> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > > >>> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > > > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
