Hi Steve

Thanks for that. I just went and looked at it and it is the red rocker
cover version with ECCS on the inlet manifold. The price is right at
$700 with loom computer and cooler, but I am not so sure now, especially
after everything that has been said - still tossing it up. I am really
not looking for a 10 sec car, to be honest if it could keep up with
something like a new SS commodore or something I would be pretty happy.
The other problem is that it was originally an auto, so the flywheel
clutch etc is going to add to the price. Hmm...

On Sat, 2004-01-24 at 23:00, Steve Lamb wrote:
> >Thanks all. I have been told to avoid the R31 engine and that they arent
> >nearly as good. I got this from a review on the R32 on Autospeed.
> >
> ><begin>
> >The RB range of turbo engines are stormers - and the GTS-t's 2-litre
> >RB20DET is no exception. Note that the R32's DOHC, 24-valve turbo is a
> >lot higher spec than the R31's (red rocker cover) version. In its
> >updated form, the GTS-t motor features a 8.5:1 static compression ratio,
> >double overhead cams, 24-valves, multi-point fuel injection, direct-fire
> >ignition and - of course - an air-to-air intercooled turbocharger.
> ><end>
> >
> >Having a look at it tomorrow, the price is right and assuming it is an
> >R32 type the Z is one step closer to RB power. Yeah...
> 
> 
> There are actually 2 types of 'red-rocker' RB20DET (3 if you count 
> the RB20DET-R).  The type mentioned in the AS article is the early 
> NICS or '12-port' version which had about 140kW in stock form.  From 
> about 1988 a second generation of 'red-rocker' engine appeared which 
> is commonly called the 'ECCS' version.  This vesrion had about 150kW 
> standard.   I have one of these in my HR31 coupe.  It is very similar 
> in spec to the R32 type with the major differences being a 
> non-ball-bearing turbo and a slightly less refined engine management 
> system.
> 
> There is no doubt that the R32 type is the best one to get.  But 
> don't look too much at the power figures quoted.  Off-boost these 
> engines are dogs...just about any NA 1600 (or even less in some 
> cases) will see them off quite easily in the traffic light GP (if 
> your into that sort of thing).  In a light car, things will be 
> better, but there's no doubt an RB25DET is the way to go if you can 
> afford it (cubes, etc).  On the up side, RB20DET's love to rev......
> 
> The RB20DET actually did make an appearance in a Z chassis...there 
> was a Z31 model sold only in Japan known as the '200ZR'.   It was 
> only the NICS spec RB20DET, but it had the rear bowl sump and an 
> intercooler mounted above the rocker cover (like GTiR).
> 
> 


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