Hi Mark,

Yeah fair enough - something I just found in a book called "The Racing 
& High-Performance Tire" explains "...Static toe-out is common at the 
front wheels on racecars... Static toe-out adds slip angle to the inside 
tyre and gets that tyre working early in a turn before the weight 
transfers to the outside tire" ie getting some work from the inside tyre 
while it can.

Andrew

> Andrew,
> 
> I never ran the car with toe-in....but I did run it with zero toe. adding
> just 1-2mm of toe out certainly helped the handling - particularly initial
> turn in. Somebody did explain this to me......and if my memory serves me
> correctly, it has something to do with the inside wheel actually turning
> sharper than the outside, therefore assisting the outside wheel more. Even
> though the outside wheel takes most of the workload, having the inside wheel
> turning further than normal helps even further.
> 
> That's how I understand it anyway...wether that be right or wrong I do not
> know. What I can say is....it was definately better. It felt batter, and it
> was faster on the stop watch......and that is the main thing right?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Mark.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Greenbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:56 AM
> Subject: Re: factory front toe spec
> 
> 
> > Mark,
> >
> > On the racecar, how do you find the handling with the toe out, say in
> > comparison to the same amount of toe in? I would have thought you'd
> > get more grip/better turn in with the toe in, because the more loaded
> > (outside) tyre already has a slip angle at the beginning of the corner?
> > (at the expense of the inside tyre)
> >
> > Interested to hear your thoughts,
> > Andrew
> >
> > > Andrew...... Sounds excessive to me. We only run 1-2mm of toe out on
> > > the race car.
> > >
> > > Just checked my workshop manual (Kenneth Ball), it recommends .3" Toe
> > > IN.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps.
> > >
> > > Mark.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Andrew Greenbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:36 AM
> > > Subject: factory front toe spec
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > >
> > > > I havent got my service manual on me - does anyone know the spec
> > > > for a 1600 front end toe alignment?
> > > >
> > > > I quickly checked a wheel alignment done on my car with a tape
> > > > measure - its been set at roughly 5mm toe out total, or approx 0.3deg
> > > > toe out per wheel. Any thoughts on if this is excessive??
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Andrew
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 



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