Thanks for that Adam and Mark K
I had a good belly laugh on that one...
Unfortunately I had my gall bladder out last Monday and I'm not supposed
to
laugh...
For those who are interested we (Sara actually- as I was in hospital)
poured
the slab for the new house on Tuesday.
After 18 months and huge amounts of red tape its starting to progress.
Pics
available (no nail polish Mark) email me off list
Cheers
Mick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts?
better?
http://www.sr510.com/gfy/polished.jpg
;)
----- Original Message -----
From: "mark krawczuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts?
> hi, i would have appreciated the pic more if u had some nail polish
> on.......;-)
>
>
> mark k
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:34 PM
> Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts?
>
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Just thought i'd give an update on how I went with fitting my turbo.
>>
>> I ground back the mount and lopped a small piece off of the pad that
sits
>> on the insulator (image below)
>> http://www.sr510.com/gfy/mount_finished_top_800.jpg
>>
>> Now she fits quite nicely
>>
>> http://www.sr510.com/gfy/front_page_800.jpg
>>
>> Taking a bit off of the pad made alot more room between the compressor
>> housing and mount too (thanks for pointing that out Terry)
>>
>> http://www.sr510.com/gfy/finger_space_800.jpg
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> ps - you may need to copy & paste the links into your browser...
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:25 PM
>> Subject: RE: shaving the engine mounts?
>>
>>
>>> It will be interesting to read what they think - I see anything
>>> that's
>>> posted as I'm on the SR list too.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Terry
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam
Jackson
>>> Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2006 3:25 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Terry. I see - I always thought there was more movement in the
>>> insulator. Luckily I asked, i've sent out a message on the
>>> sr20transplants
>>> group to see how others have gone about fixing this problem too.
>>>
>>> thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:53 PM
>>> Subject: RE: shaving the engine mounts?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Adam,
>>>>
>>>> The "this is fixed line" needs to come up to the top of the
>>>> insulator
>>>> -
>>>> the
>>>> other lines are correct. The insulator doesn't move much but it does
>>>> move
>>>> under heavy load and acceleration/deceleration and more so when
>>>> everything
>>>> is hot under the bonnet, and the movement will increase slightly as
>>>> time
>>>> goes by. It passes the index finger test so it is fine. I would wait
>>>> until
>>>> you get it going and then worry about it if it touches - removing
>>>> the
>>>> dump
>>>> to get the mount out would be the only pain.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Terry
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam
>>>> Jackson
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:31 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Terry,
>>>>
>>>> I had a look today and i can only just fit my index finger inbetween
>>>> and once the mount is ground back then there will be a little less
>>>> room
>>>>
>>>> One thing I find a little puzzling is how will these parts come into
>>>> contact? I've made an image below with lines and text according to
>>>> what I think moves together - please correct me where i'm wrong.
>>>>
>>>> http://sr510.com/gfy/no_fit_text.jpg
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:09 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: shaving the engine mounts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The top angle photo indicates there isn't a problem as the housing
>>>>> looks to
>>>>> be in a different plane to the mount - Ok, then I looked at the
>>>>> "another
>>>>> angle" pic and it looks like it could be a problem just like it did
in
>>>>> the
>>>>> first photo - I think visual is the go here. General rule in that
area
>>>>> is
>>>>> if
>>>>> you can fit your index finger between things she's fine. I've not
read
>>>>> about
>>>>> mount clearance problems with SR's on their list that I can recall
and
>>>>> surely someone on there has fitted the same turbo as you're in the
>>>>> process
>>>>> of - you may wish to ask for a 2nd opinion as "been there done
>>>>> that"
>>>>> is
>>>>> always useful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Terry
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam
>>>>> Jackson
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2006 4:37 AM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Terry,
>>>>>
>>>>> I got ya now. Pretty sure that the engine mounts go out on an angle
>>>>> towards the engine so the area you're referring to should be behind
>>>>> the mount itself.
>>>>> This pic gives a better idea of that
>>>>> http://sr510.com/gfy/top_angle.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> and another for good measure
>>>>> http://www.sr510.com/gfy/another_angle.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll definitely check it out as i hadn't even noticed that so
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> for pointing it out.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:45 AM
>>>>> Subject: RE: shaving the engine mounts?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Adam,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You doing the swing shift too? On the photo it looks like the
>>>>>> clearance between the bottom of the turbo housing and the flat bit
>>>>>> at the bottom of the mount that the bolts go thru (just above the
>>>>>> rubber
>>>>>> insulator) is close. There's a hose clamp in there too, but that
>>>>>> looks like it's behind the mount and not in play. It may be just
the
>>>>>> angle of the photo but it doesn't look
>>>>>> like there's 50mm clearance in the photo. When you check it out,
draw
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> line
>>>>>> between what moves with the engine, and what is bolted to the
chassis
>>>>>> i.e.
>>>>>> the static bit. If you do decide to weld in the brace make sure
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> run
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> vertical weld up either side of the plate, with the welded method
it
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> the first thing an engineer looks at if they see the mount has
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> modified. Most times they don't see the modification to OEM mounts
if
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> looks stock - you're nearly always 101% there if it looks nice as
>>>>>> well
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> being sound for you're peace of mind. I've seen some mods get
knocked
>>>>>> back
>>>>>> that were structurally 100% sound but looked fugly - go figure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Terry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam
>>>>>> Jackson
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2006 2:50 AM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Terry,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not quite sure I understand where abouts you mean with regards
>>>>>> to the housing hitting the static part of the mount? Do you mean
the
>>>>>> X member where the rubber part of the mount is sitting? That's a
>>>>>> good 40 or 50mm from the housing, but i'll check it out in
>>>>>> anycase.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the reply - i'll definitely weld in a new brace and be
>>>>>> sure to paint everything up so it looks OEM ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 2:19 AM
>>>>>> Subject: RE: shaving the engine mounts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Morning folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice dryer. I can't see much problem with shaving the mount in
this
>>>>>>> case as it looks like an OEM mount as opposed to a backyard
purpose
>>>>>>> built one. It doesn't require much clearance in that area - 5mm
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> ample as the mount &
>>>>>>> the turbo will move in the same plane at all times - you do get a
>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>> amount of flex thru the manifolds but it's minimal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you're worried about the integrity of the mount post shaving
I'd
>>>>>>> suggest that you weld a small brace on the inside between the
>>>>>>> vertical plates or an easier method to brace it is to use a
>>>>>>> decent
>>>>>>> size bolt eg 8mm thru either a
>>>>>>> round or square tube that's positioned flush between the inner
>>>>>>> vertical
>>>>>>> surfaces - either method is acceptable for racing engines so rego
>>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>> have a drama with either. The position of the reinforcing brace
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>> 25mm i.e. around half way from the bottom of the mount.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any time I've been required to shave a mount I always repaint it
>>>>>>> etc to make it look like it's not just been hacked with a
grinder -
>>>>>>> if it looks like it's been hacked then it probably has been in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> minds of most engineers. Actually from looking at the photo, I'd
be
>>>>>>> more worried about the clearance
>>>>>>> between the static part of the mount (i.e. below the insulator)
and
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> housing when the engine moves at WOT on the mounts. Hard to say
from
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> pic
>>>>>>> how much static clearance there is there but it needs to be at
least
>>>>>>> 10mm.
>>>>>>> Heat will not be a factor in this case as far as I could tell
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> pic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have fun with it,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Terry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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