okie dokie, didn't think of the exhaust are the rear housings in the same location?
Heath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:59 PM Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts? > haha - no way to selling and i'd prefer to use existing manifold. Otherwise > it's new dump pipe, mod exhaust etc.. Not really too keen on that idea. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Cleary's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:56 PM > Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts? > > > > custom ex mani would be the easier solution, or sell me your turbo and get > > a > > smaller one > > hehehe, > > > > Heath > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:25 PM > > Subject: RE: shaving the engine mounts? > > > > > >> It will be interesting to read what they think - I see anything that's > >> posted as I'm on the SR list too. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Terry > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Jackson > >> Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2006 3:25 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts? > >> > >> > >> Thanks Terry. I see - I always thought there was more movement in the > >> insulator. Luckily I asked, i've sent out a message on the > >> sr20transplants > >> group to see how others have gone about fixing this problem too. > >> > >> thanks for your help. > >> > >> cheers, > >> Adam > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:53 PM > >> Subject: RE: shaving the engine mounts? > >> > >> > >> > Adam, > >> > > >> > The "this is fixed line" needs to come up to the top of the insulator > >> > - > >> > the > >> > other lines are correct. The insulator doesn't move much but it does > > move > >> > under heavy load and acceleration/deceleration and more so when > > everything > >> > is hot under the bonnet, and the movement will increase slightly as > >> > time > >> > goes by. It passes the index finger test so it is fine. I would wait > > until > >> > you get it going and then worry about it if it touches - removing the > > dump > >> > to get the mount out would be the only pain. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > Terry > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: [email protected] > >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam > >> > Jackson > >> > Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:31 PM > >> > To: [email protected] > >> > Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts? > >> > > >> > > >> > Hi Terry, > >> > > >> > I had a look today and i can only just fit my index finger inbetween > >> > and once the mount is ground back then there will be a little less > >> > room > >> > > >> > One thing I find a little puzzling is how will these parts come into > >> > contact? I've made an image below with lines and text according to > >> > what I think moves together - please correct me where i'm wrong. > >> > > >> > http://sr510.com/gfy/no_fit_text.jpg > >> > > >> > cheers, > >> > Adam > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: <[email protected]> > >> > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:09 AM > >> > Subject: RE: shaving the engine mounts? > >> > > >> > > >> >> The top angle photo indicates there isn't a problem as the housing > >> >> looks to > >> >> be in a different plane to the mount - Ok, then I looked at the > > "another > >> >> angle" pic and it looks like it could be a problem just like it did in > >> >> the > >> >> first photo - I think visual is the go here. General rule in that area > > is > >> >> if > >> >> you can fit your index finger between things she's fine. I've not read > >> >> about > >> >> mount clearance problems with SR's on their list that I can recall and > >> >> surely someone on there has fitted the same turbo as you're in the > >> >> process > >> >> of - you may wish to ask for a 2nd opinion as "been there done that" > >> >> is > >> >> always useful. > >> >> > >> >> Regards, > >> >> Terry > >> >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: [email protected] > >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam > >> >> Jackson > >> >> Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2006 4:37 AM > >> >> To: [email protected] > >> >> Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Terry, > >> >> > >> >> I got ya now. Pretty sure that the engine mounts go out on an angle > >> >> towards the engine so the area you're referring to should be behind > >> >> the mount itself. > >> >> This pic gives a better idea of that > >> >> http://sr510.com/gfy/top_angle.jpg > >> >> > >> >> and another for good measure > >> >> http://www.sr510.com/gfy/another_angle.jpg > >> >> > >> >> I'll definitely check it out as i hadn't even noticed that so thanks > >> >> for pointing it out. > >> >> > >> >> cheers, > >> >> Adam > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> To: <[email protected]> > >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:45 AM > >> >> Subject: RE: shaving the engine mounts? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> Adam, > >> >>> > >> >>> You doing the swing shift too? On the photo it looks like the > >> >>> clearance between the bottom of the turbo housing and the flat bit > >> >>> at the bottom of the mount that the bolts go thru (just above the > >> >>> rubber > >> >>> insulator) is close. There's a hose clamp in there too, but that > >> >>> looks like it's behind the mount and not in play. It may be just the > >> >>> angle of the photo but it doesn't look > >> >>> like there's 50mm clearance in the photo. When you check it out, draw > > a > >> >>> line > >> >>> between what moves with the engine, and what is bolted to the chassis > >> >>> i.e. > >> >>> the static bit. If you do decide to weld in the brace make sure you > > run > >> >>> a > >> >>> vertical weld up either side of the plate, with the welded method it > >> >>> will > >> >>> be > >> >>> the first thing an engineer looks at if they see the mount has been > >> >>> modified. Most times they don't see the modification to OEM mounts if > > it > >> >>> looks stock - you're nearly always 101% there if it looks nice as > >> >>> well > >> >>> as > >> >>> being sound for you're peace of mind. I've seen some mods get knocked > >> >>> back > >> >>> that were structurally 100% sound but looked fugly - go figure. > >> >>> > >> >>> Regards, > >> >>> Terry > >> >>> > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> From: [email protected] > >> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam > >> >>> Jackson > >> >>> Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2006 2:50 AM > >> >>> To: [email protected] > >> >>> Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts? > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi Terry, > >> >>> > >> >>> I'm not quite sure I understand where abouts you mean with regards > >> >>> to the housing hitting the static part of the mount? Do you mean the > >> >>> X member where the rubber part of the mount is sitting? That's a > >> >>> good 40 or 50mm from the housing, but i'll check it out in anycase. > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks for the reply - i'll definitely weld in a new brace and be > >> >>> sure to paint everything up so it looks OEM ;) > >> >>> > >> >>> cheers, > >> >>> Adam > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>> From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >>> To: <[email protected]> > >> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 2:19 AM > >> >>> Subject: RE: shaving the engine mounts? > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>>> Morning folks, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Nice dryer. I can't see much problem with shaving the mount in this > >> >>>> case as it looks like an OEM mount as opposed to a backyard purpose > >> >>>> built one. It doesn't require much clearance in that area - 5mm is > >> >>>> ample as the mount & > >> >>>> the turbo will move in the same plane at all times - you do get a > > small > >> >>>> amount of flex thru the manifolds but it's minimal. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> If you're worried about the integrity of the mount post shaving I'd > >> >>>> suggest that you weld a small brace on the inside between the > >> >>>> vertical plates or an easier method to brace it is to use a decent > >> >>>> size bolt eg 8mm thru either a > >> >>>> round or square tube that's positioned flush between the inner > > vertical > >> >>>> surfaces - either method is acceptable for racing engines so rego > >> >>>> shouldn't > >> >>>> have a drama with either. The position of the reinforcing brace > >> >>>> would > >> >>>> be > >> >>>> say > >> >>>> 25mm i.e. around half way from the bottom of the mount. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Any time I've been required to shave a mount I always repaint it > >> >>>> etc to make it look like it's not just been hacked with a grinder - > >> >>>> if it looks like it's been hacked then it probably has been in the > >> >>>> minds of most engineers. Actually from looking at the photo, I'd be > >> >>>> more worried about the clearance > >> >>>> between the static part of the mount (i.e. below the insulator) and > > the > >> >>>> housing when the engine moves at WOT on the mounts. Hard to say from > >> >>>> the > >> >>>> pic > >> >>>> how much static clearance there is there but it needs to be at least > >> >>>> 10mm. > >> >>>> Heat will not be a factor in this case as far as I could tell from > > the > >> >>>> pic. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Have fun with it, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Regards, > >> >>>> Terry > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/363 - Release Date: > >> >> 13/06/2006 > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. > >> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/363 - Release Date: > >> >> 13/06/2006 > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. > >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: > > 14/06/2006 > >> > > >> > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > >> > OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > >> > Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send > >> > submissions to [email protected] No unauthorised > >> > redistribution of this email > >> > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > >> > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message. > >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: > > 14/06/2006 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. > >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: > > 14/06/2006 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message. > >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: > > 14/06/2006 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 14/06/2006 > >> > >> --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > >> OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > >> Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send > >> submissions to [email protected] No unauthorised > >> redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > >> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this outgoing message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 14/06/2006 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 14/06/2006 > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this outgoing message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 14/06/2006 > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 14/06/2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 14/06/2006 > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 14/06/2006 > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 14/06/2006 > -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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