It will be interesting to read what they think - I see anything that's posted as I'm on the SR list too.
Regards, Terry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Jackson Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2006 3:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts? Thanks Terry. I see - I always thought there was more movement in the insulator. Luckily I asked, i've sent out a message on the sr20transplants group to see how others have gone about fixing this problem too. thanks for your help. cheers, Adam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:53 PM Subject: RE: shaving the engine mounts? > Adam, > > The "this is fixed line" needs to come up to the top of the insulator > - > the > other lines are correct. The insulator doesn't move much but it does move > under heavy load and acceleration/deceleration and more so when everything > is hot under the bonnet, and the movement will increase slightly as time > goes by. It passes the index finger test so it is fine. I would wait until > you get it going and then worry about it if it touches - removing the dump > to get the mount out would be the only pain. > > Regards, > Terry > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam > Jackson > Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts? > > > Hi Terry, > > I had a look today and i can only just fit my index finger inbetween > and once the mount is ground back then there will be a little less > room > > One thing I find a little puzzling is how will these parts come into > contact? I've made an image below with lines and text according to > what I think moves together - please correct me where i'm wrong. > > http://sr510.com/gfy/no_fit_text.jpg > > cheers, > Adam > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:09 AM > Subject: RE: shaving the engine mounts? > > >> The top angle photo indicates there isn't a problem as the housing >> looks to >> be in a different plane to the mount - Ok, then I looked at the "another >> angle" pic and it looks like it could be a problem just like it did in >> the >> first photo - I think visual is the go here. General rule in that area is >> if >> you can fit your index finger between things she's fine. I've not read >> about >> mount clearance problems with SR's on their list that I can recall and >> surely someone on there has fitted the same turbo as you're in the >> process >> of - you may wish to ask for a 2nd opinion as "been there done that" is >> always useful. >> >> Regards, >> Terry >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam >> Jackson >> Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2006 4:37 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts? >> >> >> Terry, >> >> I got ya now. Pretty sure that the engine mounts go out on an angle >> towards the engine so the area you're referring to should be behind >> the mount itself. >> This pic gives a better idea of that http://sr510.com/gfy/top_angle.jpg >> >> and another for good measure >> http://www.sr510.com/gfy/another_angle.jpg >> >> I'll definitely check it out as i hadn't even noticed that so thanks >> for pointing it out. >> >> cheers, >> Adam >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:45 AM >> Subject: RE: shaving the engine mounts? >> >> >>> Adam, >>> >>> You doing the swing shift too? On the photo it looks like the >>> clearance between the bottom of the turbo housing and the flat bit >>> at the bottom of the mount that the bolts go thru (just above the >>> rubber >>> insulator) is close. There's a hose clamp in there too, but that >>> looks like it's behind the mount and not in play. It may be just the >>> angle of the photo but it doesn't look >>> like there's 50mm clearance in the photo. When you check it out, draw a >>> line >>> between what moves with the engine, and what is bolted to the chassis >>> i.e. >>> the static bit. If you do decide to weld in the brace make sure you run >>> a >>> vertical weld up either side of the plate, with the welded method it >>> will >>> be >>> the first thing an engineer looks at if they see the mount has been >>> modified. Most times they don't see the modification to OEM mounts if it >>> looks stock - you're nearly always 101% there if it looks nice as well >>> as >>> being sound for you're peace of mind. I've seen some mods get knocked >>> back >>> that were structurally 100% sound but looked fugly - go figure. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Terry >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam >>> Jackson >>> Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2006 2:50 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts? >>> >>> >>> Hi Terry, >>> >>> I'm not quite sure I understand where abouts you mean with regards >>> to the housing hitting the static part of the mount? Do you mean the >>> X member where the rubber part of the mount is sitting? That's a >>> good 40 or 50mm from the housing, but i'll check it out in anycase. >>> >>> Thanks for the reply - i'll definitely weld in a new brace and be >>> sure to paint everything up so it looks OEM ;) >>> >>> cheers, >>> Adam >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 2:19 AM >>> Subject: RE: shaving the engine mounts? >>> >>> >>>> Morning folks, >>>> >>>> Nice dryer. I can't see much problem with shaving the mount in this >>>> case as it looks like an OEM mount as opposed to a backyard purpose >>>> built one. It doesn't require much clearance in that area - 5mm is >>>> ample as the mount & >>>> the turbo will move in the same plane at all times - you do get a small >>>> amount of flex thru the manifolds but it's minimal. >>>> >>>> If you're worried about the integrity of the mount post shaving I'd >>>> suggest that you weld a small brace on the inside between the >>>> vertical plates or an easier method to brace it is to use a decent >>>> size bolt eg 8mm thru either a >>>> round or square tube that's positioned flush between the inner vertical >>>> surfaces - either method is acceptable for racing engines so rego >>>> shouldn't >>>> have a drama with either. The position of the reinforcing brace would >>>> be >>>> say >>>> 25mm i.e. around half way from the bottom of the mount. >>>> >>>> Any time I've been required to shave a mount I always repaint it >>>> etc to make it look like it's not just been hacked with a grinder - >>>> if it looks like it's been hacked then it probably has been in the >>>> minds of most engineers. Actually from looking at the photo, I'd be >>>> more worried about the clearance >>>> between the static part of the mount (i.e. below the insulator) and the >>>> housing when the engine moves at WOT on the mounts. Hard to say from >>>> the >>>> pic >>>> how much static clearance there is there but it needs to be at least >>>> 10mm. >>>> Heat will not be a factor in this case as far as I could tell from the >>>> pic. >>>> >>>> Have fun with it, >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Terry >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/363 - Release Date: >> 13/06/2006 >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/363 - Release Date: >> 13/06/2006 >> >> > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 14/06/2006 > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send > submissions to [email protected] No unauthorised > redistribution of this email > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 14/06/2006 > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 14/06/2006 > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 14/06/2006 > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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