okie dokie, didn't think of the exhaust
are the rear housings in the same location?
Heath
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts?
haha - no way to selling and i'd prefer to use existing manifold.
Otherwise
it's new dump pipe, mod exhaust etc.. Not really too keen on that idea.
----- Original Message -----
From: "The Cleary's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts?
> custom ex mani would be the easier solution, or sell me your turbo and
get
> a
> smaller one
> hehehe,
>
> Heath
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:25 PM
> Subject: RE: shaving the engine mounts?
>
>
>> It will be interesting to read what they think - I see anything that's
>> posted as I'm on the SR list too.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Terry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam
>> Jackson
>> Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2006 3:25 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts?
>>
>>
>> Thanks Terry. I see - I always thought there was more movement in the
>> insulator. Luckily I asked, i've sent out a message on the
>> sr20transplants
>> group to see how others have gone about fixing this problem too.
>>
>> thanks for your help.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:53 PM
>> Subject: RE: shaving the engine mounts?
>>
>>
>> > Adam,
>> >
>> > The "this is fixed line" needs to come up to the top of the
>> > insulator
>> > -
>> > the
>> > other lines are correct. The insulator doesn't move much but it does
> move
>> > under heavy load and acceleration/deceleration and more so when
> everything
>> > is hot under the bonnet, and the movement will increase slightly as
>> > time
>> > goes by. It passes the index finger test so it is fine. I would wait
> until
>> > you get it going and then worry about it if it touches - removing
>> > the
> dump
>> > to get the mount out would be the only pain.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Terry
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam
>> > Jackson
>> > Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:31 PM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts?
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Terry,
>> >
>> > I had a look today and i can only just fit my index finger inbetween
>> > and once the mount is ground back then there will be a little less
>> > room
>> >
>> > One thing I find a little puzzling is how will these parts come into
>> > contact? I've made an image below with lines and text according to
>> > what I think moves together - please correct me where i'm wrong.
>> >
>> > http://sr510.com/gfy/no_fit_text.jpg
>> >
>> > cheers,
>> > Adam
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: <[email protected]>
>> > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:09 AM
>> > Subject: RE: shaving the engine mounts?
>> >
>> >
>> >> The top angle photo indicates there isn't a problem as the housing
>> >> looks to
>> >> be in a different plane to the mount - Ok, then I looked at the
> "another
>> >> angle" pic and it looks like it could be a problem just like it did
in
>> >> the
>> >> first photo - I think visual is the go here. General rule in that
area
> is
>> >> if
>> >> you can fit your index finger between things she's fine. I've not
read
>> >> about
>> >> mount clearance problems with SR's on their list that I can recall
and
>> >> surely someone on there has fitted the same turbo as you're in the
>> >> process
>> >> of - you may wish to ask for a 2nd opinion as "been there done
>> >> that"
>> >> is
>> >> always useful.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Terry
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: [email protected]
>> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam
>> >> Jackson
>> >> Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2006 4:37 AM
>> >> To: [email protected]
>> >> Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Terry,
>> >>
>> >> I got ya now. Pretty sure that the engine mounts go out on an angle
>> >> towards the engine so the area you're referring to should be behind
>> >> the mount itself.
>> >> This pic gives a better idea of that
>> >> http://sr510.com/gfy/top_angle.jpg
>> >>
>> >> and another for good measure
>> >> http://www.sr510.com/gfy/another_angle.jpg
>> >>
>> >> I'll definitely check it out as i hadn't even noticed that so
>> >> thanks
>> >> for pointing it out.
>> >>
>> >> cheers,
>> >> Adam
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: <[email protected]>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:45 AM
>> >> Subject: RE: shaving the engine mounts?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Adam,
>> >>>
>> >>> You doing the swing shift too? On the photo it looks like the
>> >>> clearance between the bottom of the turbo housing and the flat bit
>> >>> at the bottom of the mount that the bolts go thru (just above the
>> >>> rubber
>> >>> insulator) is close. There's a hose clamp in there too, but that
>> >>> looks like it's behind the mount and not in play. It may be just
the
>> >>> angle of the photo but it doesn't look
>> >>> like there's 50mm clearance in the photo. When you check it out,
draw
> a
>> >>> line
>> >>> between what moves with the engine, and what is bolted to the
chassis
>> >>> i.e.
>> >>> the static bit. If you do decide to weld in the brace make sure
>> >>> you
> run
>> >>> a
>> >>> vertical weld up either side of the plate, with the welded method
it
>> >>> will
>> >>> be
>> >>> the first thing an engineer looks at if they see the mount has
>> >>> been
>> >>> modified. Most times they don't see the modification to OEM mounts
if
> it
>> >>> looks stock - you're nearly always 101% there if it looks nice as
>> >>> well
>> >>> as
>> >>> being sound for you're peace of mind. I've seen some mods get
knocked
>> >>> back
>> >>> that were structurally 100% sound but looked fugly - go figure.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Terry
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: [email protected]
>> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam
>> >>> Jackson
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2006 2:50 AM
>> >>> To: [email protected]
>> >>> Subject: Re: shaving the engine mounts?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Terry,
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm not quite sure I understand where abouts you mean with regards
>> >>> to the housing hitting the static part of the mount? Do you mean
the
>> >>> X member where the rubber part of the mount is sitting? That's a
>> >>> good 40 or 50mm from the housing, but i'll check it out in
>> >>> anycase.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for the reply - i'll definitely weld in a new brace and be
>> >>> sure to paint everything up so it looks OEM ;)
>> >>>
>> >>> cheers,
>> >>> Adam
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>> To: <[email protected]>
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 2:19 AM
>> >>> Subject: RE: shaving the engine mounts?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Morning folks,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Nice dryer. I can't see much problem with shaving the mount in
this
>> >>>> case as it looks like an OEM mount as opposed to a backyard
purpose
>> >>>> built one. It doesn't require much clearance in that area - 5mm
>> >>>> is
>> >>>> ample as the mount &
>> >>>> the turbo will move in the same plane at all times - you do get a
> small
>> >>>> amount of flex thru the manifolds but it's minimal.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you're worried about the integrity of the mount post shaving
I'd
>> >>>> suggest that you weld a small brace on the inside between the
>> >>>> vertical plates or an easier method to brace it is to use a
>> >>>> decent
>> >>>> size bolt eg 8mm thru either a
>> >>>> round or square tube that's positioned flush between the inner
> vertical
>> >>>> surfaces - either method is acceptable for racing engines so rego
>> >>>> shouldn't
>> >>>> have a drama with either. The position of the reinforcing brace
>> >>>> would
>> >>>> be
>> >>>> say
>> >>>> 25mm i.e. around half way from the bottom of the mount.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Any time I've been required to shave a mount I always repaint it
>> >>>> etc to make it look like it's not just been hacked with a
grinder -
>> >>>> if it looks like it's been hacked then it probably has been in
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> minds of most engineers. Actually from looking at the photo, I'd
be
>> >>>> more worried about the clearance
>> >>>> between the static part of the mount (i.e. below the insulator)
and
> the
>> >>>> housing when the engine moves at WOT on the mounts. Hard to say
from
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> pic
>> >>>> how much static clearance there is there but it needs to be at
least
>> >>>> 10mm.
>> >>>> Heat will not be a factor in this case as far as I could tell
>> >>>> from
> the
>> >>>> pic.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Have fun with it,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards,
>> >>>> Terry
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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