Thanks for reminding everyone of this, Curt... the light is only a suggested
glow time.  The glow continues for much longer after the light goes out.
You can hear when the glow stops... the relay goes "clunk!".  My normal cold
starting procedure for a OM616 or 617 is to glow until the relay clunks off,
then start cranking with my foot on the pedal... don't stop cranking until
it starts.  30 seconds or longer... whatever it takes.  The cranking will
slowly get faster and faster.  The owners manual clearly states long
cranking is recommended.  If you stop, you might not have enough juice to
glow and crank again.

I've started OM617s well into the single digits with conventional oil... its
all about the long glow, followed by the long crank.  And having a good
battery and starter, of course.

Jaime
'95 E320 - whatever
'82 300Dt - new starter... starts well this year so far
'79 300SD - in the heated garage until spring


On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I've never found a temp yet that my 601 won't start at. Might find out this
> winter...
>
> I used to fart around with double glow in the 240D, lately I've been just
> glowing and waiting another 20 seconds or so after the light goes out, then
> crank until it starts which so far it always does even down in the teens.
> Thats with conventional oil. If I can get another leak or two fixed I'll put
> the Mobil 1 to it and not worry down to 0F... I do use the block heater at
> home, I've got a timer setup which is super handy...
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:55:18 -0500
> From: "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" <degco...@cox.net>
> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Subject: [MBZ] glowing in the cold
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> Yesterday morning at 14F I fired my OM602 off with only one glow-barely
> turned a revolution. Different from the other OM 616 I had which I would
> double glow in the teens and sometimes triple  glow when the single digits
> arrived. I do have block heater on the 300D (OM 602) but don't use it or
> need to.
>
> On my current 240D I have a jury rigged manual GP relay system-Fred
> recognizes the relay as a Ford relay of some kind. Anyway I just hold the
> button for 30, 60, 90 or however many seconds-also can use it as an
> afterglow of sorts for a little bit.
> Dwight
>
> Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
> 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.?
> 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
> Wickford, RI
>
>
> This a.m. it was 27 deg F.  Glowed the '87 once until the glow plug
> relay shut off, then re-started the relay, let her glow for another 20
> seconds or so and she fired up fairly quickly.  Big cloud of smoke.
>
> -Max
>
>
>
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