Yup crank until you win or crash... I find that if I'm waiting for the relay
I'll never hear it, if I'd only turned the power on to open the window the
thunk will scare the bejezus out of me!
Having the valves set recently helps too as does running the car hard so its
not all carboned up. Some years ago I had my friend's 116 300SD for a couple
days. When I got it it sounded like the battery was dying (sounded like it was
cranking slow I mean) so as a good friend I figured I'd clean the battery
cables just in case. That didn't help so I swapped in the battery from my 240D
which made no difference. So I shrugged my shoulders and put his battery back
in. The car was his wife's and she mostly just made little trips to the store
or to school with the kids or whatever. I drove it home from work and then out
to dinner in a distant town with my wife and for a couple other things. The
thing I noticed about it (and I've been told is common on the 116) is that it
wanted to get into top gear really quick so I started dropping the shifter down
a gear (I forget what its marked, I haven't driven an auto MB since I drove
Fred's 190D) around town.
When I started the car to return it I noticed that it sounded better. On the
way back to work to return it I noticed it drove better, seemed to have more
power too. My friend commented the next day that it was like I'd brought him a
new car and wanted to know what I did. I told him to tell his wife to not have
it in drive around town...
-Curt
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 15:31:12 -0500
From: Jaime Kopchinski <jaime...@gmail.com>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] glowing in the cold
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Thanks for reminding everyone of this, Curt... the light is only a suggested
glow time. The glow continues for much longer after the light goes out.
You can hear when the glow stops... the relay goes "clunk!". My normal cold
starting procedure for a OM616 or 617 is to glow until the relay clunks off,
then start cranking with my foot on the pedal... don't stop cranking until
it starts. 30 seconds or longer... whatever it takes. The cranking will
slowly get faster and faster. The owners manual clearly states long
cranking is recommended. If you stop, you might not have enough juice to
glow and crank again.
I've started OM617s well into the single digits with conventional oil... its
all about the long glow, followed by the long crank. And having a good
battery and starter, of course.
Jaime
'95 E320 - whatever
'82 300Dt - new starter... starts well this year so far
'79 300SD - in the heated garage until spring
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I've never found a temp yet that my 601 won't start at. Might find out this
> winter...
>
> I used to fart around with double glow in the 240D, lately I've been just
> glowing and waiting another 20 seconds or so after the light goes out, then
> crank until it starts which so far it always does even down in the teens.
> Thats with conventional oil. If I can get another leak or two fixed I'll put
> the Mobil 1 to it and not worry down to 0F... I do use the block heater at
> home, I've got a timer setup which is super handy...
>
> -Curt
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