Hey I have NEVER knowingly posted on Banned. I can barely survive the "polite" list.
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Max Dillon <meadedil...@bellsouth.net>wrote: > Banned is a great place for such, and today I learned that Andrew also > posts there... > > Max > -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > > Let me suggest that you folks stick to talking about MB's and leave > politics alone. > > --R > > On 7/15/11 3:48 PM, Dieselhead wrote: > > Andrew's friends at the EPA are making cities clamp down on grease > > disposal. The city is making every food prep operation, not just > > restaurants, but prison, schools and hospitals, nursing homes etc. > > Even the neighborhood daycare, if they prepare meals... install a > > grease separator system to replace the relatively simple grease > > traps. These grease separators are thousands of dollars and there is > > essentially no benefit in the end, other than the grease load at the > > muni WWT plant is presumably lighter. > > > > The owner no longer can clean the thing themselves, but HAVE TO (all > > hail marx, lenin and stalin) hire an "approved" collection company > > (generally owned by guys who hire guys with dark glasses to break > > bones) to pick up the grease and empty these grease separators. > > > > The only way you will get used fry oil is if someone fried a turkey in > > the backyard, or if your community has not yet implemented these > > draconian measures. > > > > This has been implemented by the bummer administration to make sure > > that nobody can make homebrew BioD to compete with the oil companies. > > > > On the open market, Yellow grease (Used fry oil) is trading at 45 > > cents per pound in the east coast region.. (today's Jacobsen report) > > That is $3.38 per gallon for feedstock. Add $.75 per gallon for > > processing costs. > > > > Andrew, since you are a card carrying liberal, we know you would not > > dream of not paying the appropriate fuel taxes so add whatever the DC > > tax is, plus the federal tax. This is in the neighborhood of $.50 per > > gallon. Now your costs, not counting time, are $4.63 per gallon. > > How much are you saving? Then you need to buy a pickup to gather > > oil, etc, etc. And the EPA will come around and declare your backyard > > a hazardous waste area, and charge you with illegal disposal of > > hazardous waste. Add those fines and lawyer costs to your per gallon > > price. > > > > BTW, in small lots, you can't buy yellow grease for .45 a lb. that is > > for semi loads or rail car lots. > > > > STOP! (Since you asked) > > > > > > > > > >> The chemicals are easy, before you do anything stockpile 100 gallons > >> (2x 55 gallon drums) of the oil to prove that there are lots of > >> sources and to prove to yourself that its something you want to go > >> through on a consistent basis. > >> > >> I think you'll find your sources of fat are MUCH more limited than > >> you previously though. Unlike what the bio-digester folks usually > >> tell you restaurants don't usually have to pay to get rid of their > >> fryer oil... > >> > >> -Curt > >> > >> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:59:34 -0400 > >> From: andrew strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> Subject: [MBZ] Stop me before I buy a Biobuddy > >> Message-ID: > >> <CAC35L=tQbUeALWYynj-68aYvP1rDoswzk27t+xUohyFbADrf=q...@mail.gmail.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >> > >> We own three W123 turbodiesels so this is very tempting. Cost is about > >> $1700 + $450 more for the "dry washing" feature. We have lots of > >> restaurants that probably would be happy to get rid of their fryer > >> grease; the main snag might be the cost and ease of obtaining NAOH > >> (caustic > >> soda). I also wonder how much lye and water is consumed per batch, > >> and what > >> the brew would do to our fuel lines., > >> > >>_____________________________________________ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > >_____________________________________________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > _____________________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
