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> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Scordato > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:03 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bike rider, loud pipes > > > "car's noises as well as everything else. I'm sure many are > busy listening to their stereo (or cell phone conversation), > but I'd say the split of visual vs. auditory for me is more > like 60-40" > > Tim C/ (this is not just bikes) > I presume blind people cannot get their driving license in > most states. I > presume Deaf people can, so that kind of proves sight is the > key ingredient > when it comes to driving. > > People should not have to suffer because you selfishly think > it is safer. If > it was confined to the road only and if we had some giant > sound barrier up > on every road maybe you have a point. How do you explain the > other load non > bike vehicles what is their reason? We could all do just > 10mph and that > would be safer too. I still claim the safety thing is bull. > You do it > because you like the noise. > > We all got along just fine when people respected others > rights to low noise > levels. When I (and thousands of others) am sitting in my > back yard can > hear a vehicle be it jack brakes, a pick up, car or bike A > MILE AWAY that > is a problem. Or when I am trying to talk to my kid in the > yard and some > brain surgeon goes by stops at the stop light and revs it up > (I guess his > engine is such a hog that it wills stall if he does not why > else rev it > up?!) and I can not hear her only the windows rattle... that > is a problem It > is being totally inconsiderate. We all take chances when we > drive. We > should not make others suffer though who are not even on the > road. They put > mufflers on for a reason. That does not mean we pick and > choice who uses > them. I thank the good Lord I live up north this limits allot > of this noise > to just the summer months Nuff said I guess I may be in the > minority on this > but that does not make it right or acceptable. "in the > insane world the > sane man must appear insane.."./ / Tom > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 1:57 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bike rider, loud pipes > > > > Try a little experiment. Next time a fly is buzzing around > - note how > > you can see it against the walls but you lose it when it > goes across > > dark carpet or the like. It's a question of relativity - and bikes > > (as I mentioned) are > > losing the advantage of their headlight (which ain't that > much really) to > > daytime running lights. So, if everyone was loud, the loud > pipe advantage > > would go away, too. > > > > You also assert that the majority of sensory input when driving is > > sight, not sound. "Hogwash" to you then. I am listening > constantly - > > to my own car's noises as well as everything else. I'm > sure many are > > busy listening to their stereo (or cell phone > conversation), but I'd > > say the split of visual vs. auditory for me is more like > 60-40. And > > for those that aren't listening around me, I'm glad that German > > carmakers tend to be serious about their horns. > > > > It's good that you see bikes - I do too. But that doesn't change my > > stance > > that someone on a bike needs every advantage they can get - > no matter how > > small of an extra margin it provides - and I think, with > ample evidence to > > back it up, that loud pipes (as others have mentioned, they > don't have to > > be > > totally unmuffled Harley straight pipes, which are overkill and do > > irritate > > even me) are more than just a small margin. > > > > For pete's sake, maybe you should "listen" to the actual > riders that > > have already chimed in on this topic. > > > > T > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Scordato > >> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:22 AM > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bike rider, loud pipes > >> > >> > >> T may have said "They let the idiot know you're there, when they > >> might well miss you." > >> > >> So again my question if this theory holds true, why not have every > >> vehicle loud, i.e. cars, trucks ships, airplanes ect.in every city > >> every town. The > >> whole place the whole country can sound like a pit at a > >> nascar race or the > >> space shuttle going off. Then we would all know where we > >> are. An it would > >> be safer right? > >> > >> Hog wash, I would guess 98% plus of what we sense when we drive is > >> from sight not sound. > >> > >> I do 45,000 to 55,000 miles a year in a car and I never > fail to see a > >> bike coming, especially with head lights on. > >> > >> The noise is for the "look at me ego" thing. You loud vehicle > >> drivers (not just Harleys mind you) will usually never admit that > >> though. /Tom > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.striplin.net > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.striplin.net > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >
