Robert if I ride a pedal bicycle or a scooter should I have a fog horn with
that too to let everyone know I am coming? How about if I cross a street,
hey everyone carry an air horn to let it be known a pedestrian is crossing.
Blind people would really love this.
If you choose to ride a motor bike then suck up the inherent risks. Do not
incontinence thousands of others for your own sake. Or you can choose not
to ride. If I took up motor bike riding, I could drive a motor cycle from
here to the moon and I would never want that noise, even if people were
coming at me at ramming speed. You know why? I was taught to live by the
Golden Rule. There is no way I would want my neighbors to suffer. A town, a
suburb, a city, a country is supposed to be as peaceful as possible.
Remember that? Remember when you got a ticket if your muffler was bad? You
used to in the 1960s and 1970s. That was a good thing. We survived just
fine. What happened?
Robert I am sure you are a good guy, but I tell you if you had to ask your
neighbors it was probably too loud. You would have had the cops on you
door step if you lived within a mile of me and some of my neighbors. Why
should my family (and countless others who are too afraid or worn down to
speak up) suffer on account of that noise. Why? How can the good of the
few be more important than the good of the many?? One good reason, I have
yet to hear one. It is pure selfishness and ego.
Cheers Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert & Tara Ludwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bike rider, loud pipes
Put a few hundred thousand miles on a motorcycle and you might change
your mind.
you notice people driving with windows up, in a daze and weaving ,
suddenly snapping to as you approach. I had the things put on after
having to take the ditch a few times due to someone not paying attention
( and a full dressed Guzzi ( note, this is not a chopper, this is a Moto
Guzzi, i.e. safest motorcycle in the world at the time ) is NOT
something that you want to be taking a ditch on, getting airborne on
one of those things is seriously NOT fun ).
At idle and low speed riding in a civilized manner, not much diference
in sound, at highwy speed or if you crack the throttle is where they get
loud.
Yes, there are some idiots who have to make the things bark at every
light, but I'm sure that's the least of their problems.
And at the time, I asked my neighbors if it had bothered them because I
was leaving for work at 4am, not a one had heard the thing.
---------Robert
Curt Raymond wrote:
Ahh the old "Loud pipes save lives" argument. I've read some interesting
studies that indicate this to be at best misleading and at worst absolute
hogwash.
The basic gist as I understand it is that because the sound is
non-directional and because cars are so well sound-proofed that the
loudness sort of blends in with everyday noises and doesn't help.
Worse yet people can be distracted from putting on their makeup or
their cellphone conversation and actually crash INTO bikes as they look
around for where the sound is coming from. Plus some people will get
angered by the noise and their already shoddy driving skills will get
even worse possibly causing accidents around the motorcycle that might
not actually include the motorcycle itself.
Then add that the typical loud bike is a Harley and not as manuverable
as a "real" (notice the quotes, I'm not looking for flames on that one)
sport bike, and many Harley riders are not "serious" (those quotes again,
on this one I mean the doctors, lawyers and other "prestige Harley
riders") riders and as such will have an ego that doesn't keep them in a
safe defensive driving posture thereby raising the danger statistic for
"loud" bikes.
I find 'em annoying and rude, esp at 6am when somebody cranks one up
and I'm trying to sleep. Probably its not as much the bike's fault as the
hillscroggin mouth breather that only thinks about how cool he thinks he
is...
-Curt
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 07:23:38 -0800
From: "Tim C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bike rider, loud pipes
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Actually, loud pipes let cars (mostly driven by blithering idiots who
fail
to see anything smaller than a Suburban) know you're there. A friend
had an
obnoxiously loud bike (he bought it that way, wasn't trying to say
"look at
me") could hear him for about 3/4 of a mile away - he stated that cars
stayed away from him, even moving to the other side of their lane as he
passed. I know if I rode a bike, I'd want that kind of situation - not
being seen usually has disastrous results when you don't have a frame
around
you.
T
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