I'm with you. Whether it be on Harleys, Hondas or pickup trucks, loud pipes 
are just a more abrasive and slightly more mature version of sticking playing 
cards in your bike spokes- it is about making noise to draw attention to 
one's self. It has nothing to do with safety. 

Lee

On Saturday 28 January 2006 11:19, Tom Scordato wrote:
> David Said:
>
>  "Maybe if he'd had louder pipes the truck
> driver would have heard him and sped up? ;)"
>
> AMEN David, AMEN
>
> It is still noise it does not matter if it is 1:00AM or 12 noon.  It is
> disrespectful to your neighbors and fellow citizens.  These guys/(gals too
> oh no please ?)  will always say it is for "safety" because of course
> (mmhhmm) who can argue with that?
>
> I can tell you on the highway when someone is coming up on you the sound
> means nothing because it is facing the wrong way. Specially if my Becker
> Europa AM only radio is on.  Hey I got an idea for more "safety" lets put
> four pipes a set facing forward.  Add some Sirens too and a bull horn like
> on the movie "Kelly's Heroes".  some revolving lights too with strobes.
>
> They talk safety out one side of there mouths and also talk about how they
> like to do 80-, 90, 100 plus mph in some of these vehicles in traffic, heck
> I have seen it with my own eyes.  If you think you need so much safety just
> do not ride. That would be the safest thing!
> Acting like hypocrites.  They got an answer for everything, but the answers
> are not based on logic, scientific fact or more importantly being a kind
> and considerate citizen.
>
> Not enough to go out ride  and enjoy your vehicle with the standard issue
> muffler (put on for a reason and what is that??) we have to make noise so
> everyone can A) suffer, B) look at me riding by. C) I can get a thrill and
> the rest/majority of the folks who dispise it be damned.  Why do you just
> admit you like noise,  and most common folks who  are in the majority do
> not like it.  Remember when the good of the may out weighed the good of the
> few. What happened?
>
> Regards Tom Scordato
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Brodbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 1:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bike rider, loud pipes
>
> > OK Don wrote:
> >> we had one just this year - right in town. There was no car involved -
> >> the idiot didn't need any help. Too fast is too fast, regardless of
> >> the noise.
> >
> > One motorcyclist slammed into the back of a boat trailer next to an
> > airport I used to frequent.  The driver of the truck towing the boat had
> > slowed to look at the airplanes.  Unfortunately, the biker was also
> > looking at the airplanes, but hadn't slowed.  He wasn't seriously hurt,
> > fortunately, but his bike was.  Maybe if he'd had louder pipes the truck
> > driver would have heard him and sped up? ;)
> >
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