I don't know, my selfish ego is holding up a palm with a dollar sign written on it in your face.
T > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Scordato > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:33 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bike rider, loud pipes > > > "Are you having fun yet?" > > Tim C, I am loving it, how bout you? Beats hanging out at > pool halls../Tom > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 7:06 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bike rider, loud pipes > > > > Are you having fun yet? > > > > T > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Scordato > >> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:03 PM > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bike rider, loud pipes > >> > >> > >> "car's noises as well as everything else. I'm sure many are > >> busy listening to their stereo (or cell phone conversation), > >> but I'd say the split of visual vs. auditory for me is more > >> like 60-40" > >> > >> Tim C/ (this is not just bikes) > >> I presume blind people cannot get their driving license in > >> most states. I > >> presume Deaf people can, so that kind of proves sight is the > >> key ingredient > >> when it comes to driving. > >> > >> People should not have to suffer because you selfishly think > >> it is safer. If > >> it was confined to the road only and if we had some giant > >> sound barrier up > >> on every road maybe you have a point. How do you explain the > >> other load non > >> bike vehicles what is their reason? We could all do just > >> 10mph and that > >> would be safer too. I still claim the safety thing is bull. > >> You do it > >> because you like the noise. > >> > >> We all got along just fine when people respected others > >> rights to low noise > >> levels. When I (and thousands of others) am sitting in my > >> back yard can > >> hear a vehicle be it jack brakes, a pick up, car or bike A > >> MILE AWAY that > >> is a problem. Or when I am trying to talk to my kid in the > >> yard and some > >> brain surgeon goes by stops at the stop light and revs it up > >> (I guess his > >> engine is such a hog that it wills stall if he does not why > >> else rev it > >> up?!) and I can not hear her only the windows rattle... that > >> is a problem It > >> is being totally inconsiderate. We all take chances when we > >> drive. We > >> should not make others suffer though who are not even on the > >> road. They put > >> mufflers on for a reason. That does not mean we pick and > >> choice who uses > >> them. I thank the good Lord I live up north this limits allot > >> of this noise > >> to just the summer months Nuff said I guess I may be in the > >> minority on this > >> but that does not make it right or acceptable. "in the > >> insane world the > >> sane man must appear insane.."./ / Tom > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Tim C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 1:57 PM > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bike rider, loud pipes > >> > >> > >> > Try a little experiment. Next time a fly is buzzing around > >> - note how > >> > you can see it against the walls but you lose it when it > >> goes across > >> > dark carpet or the like. It's a question of relativity > - and bikes > >> > (as I mentioned) are > >> > losing the advantage of their headlight (which ain't that > >> much really) to > >> > daytime running lights. So, if everyone was loud, the loud > >> pipe advantage > >> > would go away, too. > >> > > >> > You also assert that the majority of sensory input when > driving is > >> > sight, not sound. "Hogwash" to you then. I am listening > >> constantly - > >> > to my own car's noises as well as everything else. I'm > >> sure many are > >> > busy listening to their stereo (or cell phone > >> conversation), but I'd > >> > say the split of visual vs. auditory for me is more like > >> 60-40. And > >> > for those that aren't listening around me, I'm glad that German > >> > carmakers tend to be serious about their horns. > >> > > >> > It's good that you see bikes - I do too. But that > doesn't change > >> > my stance that someone on a bike needs every advantage > they can get > >> > - > >> no matter how > >> > small of an extra margin it provides - and I think, with > >> ample evidence to > >> > back it up, that loud pipes (as others have mentioned, they > >> don't have to > >> > be > >> > totally unmuffled Harley straight pipes, which are > overkill and do > >> > irritate > >> > even me) are more than just a small margin. > >> > > >> > For pete's sake, maybe you should "listen" to the actual > >> riders that > >> > have already chimed in on this topic. > >> > > >> > T > >> > > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Scordato > >> >> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:22 AM > >> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List > >> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bike rider, loud pipes > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> T may have said "They let the idiot know you're there, when they > >> >> might well miss you." > >> >> > >> >> So again my question if this theory holds true, why not > have every > >> >> vehicle loud, i.e. cars, trucks ships, airplanes ect.in > every city > >> >> every town. The > >> >> whole place the whole country can sound like a pit at a > >> >> nascar race or the > >> >> space shuttle going off. Then we would all know where we > >> >> are. An it would > >> >> be safer right? > >> >> > >> >> Hog wash, I would guess 98% plus of what we sense when > we drive is > >> >> from sight not sound. > >> >> > >> >> I do 45,000 to 55,000 miles a year in a car and I never > >> fail to see a > >> >> bike coming, especially with head lights on. > >> >> > >> >> The noise is for the "look at me ego" thing. You loud vehicle > >> >> drivers (not just Harleys mind you) will usually never > admit that > >> >> though. /Tom > >> > > >> > _______________________________________ > >> > http://www.striplin.net > >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.striplin.net > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: > >> http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > >> > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.striplin.net > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.striplin.net > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >
