Nice thing about a crate engine is the lack of xx,000 miles of dirt, grease and grime. Plus, you know what you have and can be confident it'll last a decent amount of time and hold the power you ask.
But it's totally true that you need to pay a bunch more for all those advantages. Russ -----Original Message----- From: Nathan Sumner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: My LS1 Miata drives! Yes. The LS2 water pump and crank pulley are lower profile. That accounts for the difference and both can be interchanged. Remember that "crate" engine isn't the same as a "drop in" from a junk yard. You can't compare those prices. Drop-ins have everything you need to run the engine, crate engines don't. Things like wiring harness, PCM, accessories, will quickly add a couple grand to a crate engine. Nathan Sumner [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 2:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: My LS1 Miata drives! Right. Can you move the LS2+ water pump to the LS1? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:56 AM To: Russ Cc: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: My LS1 Miata drives! I think the lenght difference is all in the water pump. Steve Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> To Sent by: [email protected] miatapower-bounce cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject RE: My LS1 Miata drives! 04/01/2008 12:28 PM I also understand that the LS1 is longer than the LS2+, so you have more room for the radiator in the newer motors. Plus it seemed there were some other differences that made the swap easier. If you can truly get the LS3 386/480 for $6650, you're looking at only $13.85/hp (plus tranny). That crate motor vendor said "coming soon". Russ Democracy is Two Wolves and a Lamb Voting on What to Have for Lunch. Liberty is a Well-Armed Lamb Contesting the Vote From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:30 AM To: Russ Cc: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: My LS1 Miata drives! Ok, but at what price tag?? Ebay has like 3 offerings of the LS3 (only one LS7)... but oodles of the others. But the prices?? $4800 - 325hp LS1 setup w/T56 ($14.76/hp) $7000 - 400hp LS2 setup w/T56 ($17.50/hp) $7300 - 429hp (so the ad said, not 436) LS3 engine only ($17.01/hp plus you need the tranny) $8400 - 405hp LS6 setup w/T56 ($20.74/hp) $14200 - 505hp LS7 engine only ($28.11/hp plus you need wiring, ECU and tranny) Still seems like the LS1 plus bolt ons is a better route for the $$, but there is something to be said for just dropping in 400+hp without screwing around with addons. Still, it IS a Miata, so at a certain point it's moot.. an LS7 I would imagine is damn near undriveable at WOT, so why bother? You can make a perfectly undriveable LS1 for cheap. :) Wallyman (Embedded image moved to file: pic17299.gif)Inactive hide details for "Russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"Russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ge.com> Sent by: miatapower-bou To [EMAIL PROTECTED] r.net <[EMAIL PROTECTED] apower.net> 03/31/2008 cc 04:49 PM Subject RE: My LS1 Miata drives! LS3 makes more power than the LS6. :-) 436 vs. 405. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 12:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Russ; [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: My LS1 Miata drives! What's the going rate for the LS1 setup, $4k for the entire driveline with ECU/wiring? I think I saw an LS6 setup for $8-9k once... ouch. Makes my 302 look free. ;) Wally (Embedded image moved to file: pic31528.gif)Inactive hide details for [EMAIL PROTECTED]@cummins.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 03/31/2008 03:00 PM Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] tapower.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED] net Subject RE: My LS1 Miata drives! LS>1's are very expensive in the recycling world currently. They aren't used in vehicles that had the volume of F-bodies. For less than the in pricedifference to the LS1, you can easily exceed the newer engines power level with simple mods. Steve Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> To Sent by: [email protected] miatapower-bounce cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject RE: My LS1 Miata drives! 03/31/2008 01:48 PM Can you imagine using an LS3? :-) Alas, not much of a junk-yard engine yet. -----Original Message----- From: Aleksandr Milewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:40 AM To: Nathan Sumner Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: My LS1 Miata drives! 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