You mean we don't also cause sunspots??? I'll bet Al Gore sees it differently. (Tongue in cheek.)
As I understand it, the earth has gone through a number of cycles causing major changes in the climate. None of them were attributable to human influence. While I don't doubt we now have an influence climactically on our planet, global warming is a phenomenon that's happened numerous times in the past without human influence. We might be speeding it up slightly but who is to say it wouldn't be happening even without our interference? Earth's history is clear in that it HAS happened in the past a number of times already. Vulconism, ocean currents & the sun exert far more effect on the climate than mere mortals. Again, I'm not saying we don't have an effect on our climate, but I think the claims & theories are blown way out of proportion. And yes, while it might not be a good idea to floor the accelerator if your brakes fail while going downhill, who is to say you won't just pick up speed from the effects of gravity? IOW, who is to say this current change in our climate wasn't already happening & the earth was just going about it's normal cyclic change? (Albeit with a little, itty-bitty tiny amount of help from humans.) Regards, Sonny If everything is coming your way, You're in the wrong lane!!! http://www.sonny2.com ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason C Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 1:41 PM To: [email protected]; Murray, Richard Subject: RE: NMC, NPC; E85 article You have it backwards, cosmic ray particles SEED low level clouds. When sunspots are weak, the sun's magnetic field is weak, allowing more cosmic rays to reach the earth, seeding clouds, causing lower temperatures. This sunspot cycle (11 years IIRC) is uncommon in that the appearance of the sunspots are 1(?) year late. It coincides with this recent bad winter around the world. http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/06/the-sunspot-mys.html Now here is a book about the cosmic ray / warming/cooling theory, by a scientist named Svensmark. His theory which he'd been working on for >10 years, IMO fits the historical temperature data *better* than the CO2 theory. The book is *very* good ... and surprise! VERY little coverage in the corporate media ... and the chairman of the IPCC called him "irresponsible" (!) for what ... scientific discussion!: http://www.amazon.com/Chilling-Stars-2nd-Cosmic-Climate/dp/1840468661 --- On Fri, 8/8/08, Murray, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Murray, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: NMC, NPC; E85 article To: [email protected] Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 7:53 AM The best analysis I have seen attributes about 50% of global warming to human activity. The rest is natural causes like solar sunspots, etc. I guess high energy particles from sunspots disperse clouds, but human pollution helps make more clouds; but that is another discussion. As to whether we can stop global warming or not; I use this analogy: If you are driving down hill in a car and the brakes fail, do you step on the gas? The least we can do is stop stepping on the gas. It?s Friday and I?m caught up on my projects. _______________________________________________ Miatapower mailing list [email protected] http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower
