While I agree that CO2 has historically been a lagging effect of global
warming caused from other sources, but it still has an accelerating
effect on any global warming that is going on and currently has an
effect that has no historical precedent.

Historically warming has been beneficial for those economies that
benefited from warming, like northern Europe, and less so for those that
were already warm and suffered from the additional range of diseases or
the increase in drought. Of course in previous centuries those economies
were under the radar of the northern Europeans writing the history.

Historically humans, when there were humans, lived on the marginal edge
of existence. We did not have a culture with the prosperity to waste
like we do, where 25% of the population is considered to be obese, and
where at least two other populations (India and China) that dwarf ours
want to consume as much per capita as we do.

Global warming, whether caused by humans, or not, is only one of a half
dozen related challenges facing the world.

OK, I'm going home to work on my projects there. So, by Monday this
thread will be dead.

From: Jason C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 08 August, 2008 15:51
To: Sonny Tu; [email protected]; Murray, Richard
Subject: RE: NMC, NPC; E85 article

Historically periods of warming have always been accompanied by periods
of prosperity.

The price of wheat has a very strong correlation with the sunspot
cycles.

I reckon warming overall is good for the world economy, and cooling bad.
If in the next few years the warming trend is totally gone, watch the
Warming Alarmists do a song and dance about CO2. 

Like I said, Svensmark's book shows how the warming is much, much better
explained by the sun's heliosphere, than CO2.  IOW CO2 has a minor, if
not nearly non-existent, effect.

Anyone who studies GW without reading Svensmark, is doing himself a
disservice.


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