Historically periods of warming have always been accompanied by periods of 
prosperity.

The price of wheat has a very strong correlation with the sunspot cycles.

I reckon warming overall is good for the world economy, and cooling bad.  If in 
the next few years the warming trend is totally gone, watch the Warming 
Alarmists do a song and dance about CO2. 

Like I said, Svensmark's book shows how the warming is much, much better 
explained by the sun's heliosphere, than CO2.  IOW CO2 has a minor, if not 
nearly non-existent, effect.

Anyone who studies GW without reading Svensmark, is doing himself a disservice.


--- On Fri, 8/8/08, Murray, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Murray, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: NMC, NPC; E85 article
To: "Sonny Tu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 12:06 PM

Well, I guess if you go over a cliff at 50MPH you might be just as dead as if 
you went over at 100MPH, but I would just as soon get to the cliff as late as 
possible.  After all the histrionics are vented, the biggest problem is the 
uncertainty of what the climate will be like. There will be winners and losers, 
but nobody really knows who they will be.  I can probably live without polar 
bears, but I would not like to deal, or have my children, deal with the quick 
release into the atmosphere of all those methane hydrates that are currently 
locked in the northern tundra.  There may, or may not, be a tipping point where 
the changes will occur too fast for even humans to adapt.  -----Original 
Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Sonny Tu Sent: Friday, 08 August, 2008 14:30 To: [email protected] 
Subject: RE: NMC, NPC; E85 article  You mean we don't also cause sunspots???  
I'll bet
 Al Gore sees it differently.  (Tongue in cheek.)  As I understand it, the 
earth has gone through a number of cycles causing major changes in the climate. 
 None of them were attributable to human influence.  While I don't doubt we now 
have an influence climactically on our planet, global warming is a phenomenon 
that's happened numerous times in the past without human influence.  We might 
be speeding it up slightly but who is to say it wouldn't be happening even 
without our interference? Earth's history is clear in that it HAS happened in 
the past a number of times already.  Vulconism, ocean currents & the sun exert 
far more effect on the climate than mere mortals.  Again, I'm not saying we 
don't have an effect on our climate, but I think the claims & theories are 
blown way out of proportion.  And yes, while it might not be a good idea to 
floor the accelerator if your brakes fail while going downhill, who is to say 
you won't just pick up speed from the
 effects of gravity?  IOW, who is to say this current change in our climate 
wasn't already happening & the earth was just going about it's normal cyclic 
change?  (Albeit with a little, itty-bitty tiny amount of help from humans.)  
Regards, Sonny    If everything is coming your way,   You're in the wrong 
lane!!!    http://www.sonny2.com  
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