What ride height are you trying to run?
 

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From: Bob Bundy [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 3:18 PM
To: Bill Cardell; Skip Cannon; [email protected];
[email protected]; Keith Tanner
Subject: Re: Elvis and his big wheels!!


Notice the small rub mark towards the inboard side of the rear fender?
Any further inboard results in a huge loss of radial clearance in this
area. Rubbing would be drastically increased with higher offset in this
case. Similar situation in the front you loose radial clearance as you
get closer to the shock top mounting area up next to the outer fender
lip there is greater radial clearance. 
 
Bob

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Bill Cardell <mailto:[email protected]>  
        To: Bob Bundy <mailto:[email protected]>  ; Skip Cannon
<mailto:[email protected]>  ; [email protected] ;
[email protected] ; Keith Tanner <mailto:[email protected]>  
        Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:50 PM
        Subject: RE: Elvis and his big wheels!!

        PS, in your last picture, higher offset would have been your
friend.
         

        Bill Cardell 
        TurboDog's Dad 
        www.flyinmiata.com 
        www.fmwestfield.com 
        Sales 1-800-359-6957 
        Tech 970-464-5600 Before you call, check out
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        From: Bob Bundy [mailto:[email protected]] 
        Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:20 PM
        To: Skip Cannon; [email protected];
[email protected]; Bill Cardell; Keith Tanner
        Subject: Re: Elvis and his big wheels!!
        
        
        You guys must not be using as much bump travel as I am. Pictures
of my inner fender rub marks with 225/50/15 mounted with 30 offset. no
fender lip rub with rolled fenders but the top of the fender well rubs
enough I wouldnt want to go any bigger diameter both front and rear.
These tires ar 23.8" in diameter, 225/40/16 are smaller at  23.1" stock
diameter is more like 22.7. Elvis will have 25" diameter tires. 
         
        My suspension has 550# front 350# rear revalved Koni Yellow and
custom made shock tops that are made from NB mounts but have more bump
travel than other NB shock top conversions because they utilize sherical
ball setup rather than rubber bumpers and washers to secure the the top
of the shock rod. 
         
        Bob

                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: Skip Cannon <mailto:[email protected]>  
                To: [email protected] 
                Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 11:11 PM
                Subject: RE: Elvis and his big wheels!!

                
                I've been running 225/40-16 tires on my lowered '92 for
years with no rubbing or other problems.  The wheel offset is either 43
or 45, I can't recall which at the moment.
                 
                Skip

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Cardell
                        Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:13 PM
                        To: Bob Bundy; [email protected]; Keith
Tanner
                        Subject: RE: Elvis and his big wheels!!
                        
                        
                        What offset did you use, Bob?
                         

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                        Bill Cardell 
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                        From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob Bundy
                        Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:46 PM
                        To: [email protected]; Keith Tanner
                        Subject: Re: Elvis and his big wheels!!
                        
                        
                        Wow when I put the 225/50/15  tires on I have
rub marks on the top of the inner fender both front and rear rubber to
metal at full bump. Id have to loose bump travel or tub the fenders
front and rear to go any bigger diameter tires rolling the lips doesn't
help that. Maybe my custom shock tops give more bump travel than anybody
else or something. Its a 90 with Koni sports and custom spherical ball
shock tops made from NB tops it has more bump travel than Fat Cat. 
                         
                        Bob

                                ----- Original Message ----- 
                                From: Keith Tanner
<mailto:[email protected]>  
                                To: Kandasamy, Thuwaragan
<mailto:[email protected]>  ; Miata Power List
<mailto:[email protected]>  
                                Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:19 PM
                                Subject: RE: Elvis and his big wheels!!


                                The car hasn't been back on the
suspension with this setup yet, I'm still in the middle of completing
the work. Tire sizes are 235/45-17 front, 255/40-17 rear, on +45mm
wheels. I've got the springs off so we can run the suspension through
the full range of travel.
                                
                                All four fenders have been rolled but
not pulled out much. On the right rear, I had to cut out part of the
battery box and move it back to clear the tire. Left rear was almost
perfect out of the box. We still have some interference between the sway
bar and tire in the front when we try to wind on some steering lock. In
the other direction, the tire goes into the control arm just barely at
maximum lock. I suspect that with an MSM steering rack the latter
problem would be solved. I'm going to see how it drives right now, then
probably do some work to increase the sway bar clearance. Thanks to the
V8 conversion, Elvis' front sway is further forward and this is not
ideal for tire clearance.
                                
                                Keith
                                
                                
                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: [email protected]
on behalf of Kandasamy, Thuwaragan
                                Sent: Fri 2/13/2009 9:43 AM
                                To: Miata Power List
                                Subject: Elvis and his big wheels!!
                                
                                Bill and Keith,
                                
                                
                                
                                What all did you guys do to fit those
massive meats under the fenders?
                                I know when I threw the 245\40\17 on
17x8 with +36mm offset, I had to
                                pull the fenders out ... but I still
have rubbing issues with the Aero
                                kit's side skirts ... and the setup that
Elvis has is almost 8mm bigger
                                in diameter.  Just wondering if your
setup rubs against body while
                                taking corners or driving through lil
potholes?  245\35\17 tires are
                                kinda rare to come by cause Goodyear
stopped making em. :-( 
                                
                                
                                
                                The fronts on mine are 215\45\17 on 17x7
with +40mm offset and I don't
                                really have any rubbing issues, just the
rears are being a PITA.
                                
                                
                                
                                -Thuwa
                                
                                
                                
                                
                                

                                
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