I've been happy with Porterfield R4S, I've been using them on my 93 dd for 
nearly 10 years/100k, still on the original factory rotors, 155k total mileage 
on the car. They don't dust overly bad. I have probably 10 or so track days in 
addition to the street miles. They're on my 94 FM2 also, but only have 15k or 
so street miles on them.

FM used to sell them, not sure if they still do, but that qualifies them as 
good enough to put on a miata.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: B Johnson 
  To: [email protected] ; [email protected] 
  Cc: [email protected] ; [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 11:44 AM
  Subject: RE: Which hawk pads?


  hi list,


  back onto my brakes, as the time is coming. this is an effort to marginally 
improve the street braking experience




  ok i am getting close to doing my brakes/rotors/ and possibly caliper(s) if I 
find one is dragging (other post) on the 92 auto DD


  the frustrating thing is that I would like better braking than oem or 
replacement pads. SOME listers have said the hawk street pads are the ticket, 
others say they are crappy feeling.


  is there a pad that improves the braking from oem, but is durable for daily 
use?


  also, are there rotors better than generic replacement ones from autozone or 
whatever? (resist warping)


  finally, if anyone has upgraded their NA brakes, and has good rotors or 
caplipers I would be interested.






  thanks!













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  Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 16:09:09 -0500
  Subject: Re: Which hawk pads?
  From: [email protected]
  To: [email protected]
  CC: [email protected]; [email protected]

  Perhaps the issue is changing pad compounds on existing rotors? There is 
supposedly a film on a rotor that needs to be compatible with the pad compound. 
(I am not entirely convinced of this.)


  I have replaced pads with HPS for a lot of people, and then PROPERLY bed 
them. They then grip with excellent feel. I have never had a disappointed 
customer yet. Of course, they are generally upgrading from stock (or worse) 
pads. 




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  On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:58 PM, bvl <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 12/16/10 12:20 PM, Robert M wrote: 

          When I was running my FMII on the track I used HP+.  They were dusty, 
noisy, spendy, and had great initial bite and easily modulated friction.

      Once I stopped going to the track I switched to HPS.   They were quiet, 
clean, and may as well have been made of wood.   Terrible feel- I really hated 
them.   

      Weird that I had such a bad experience contrary to everyone else; I've no 
explanation for this.


    I don't think you are alone. Though not the same car, I went from HP+ to 
HPS on the subaru and the feel of the HPS
    is very soft in comparison. The initial bite is not there with a dead 
feeling post switching.

    Its been years since I had stock pads on the WRX, but I gather the HPS 
feels similar or a tad better then OEM. 

    Reason for changing: HP+ is a high friction pad, plenty of dust (I do clean 
the car, but its heavy dust that does not like to be washed away easily), and 
the accelerated rotor wear I observed which for a street only car seemed a bit 
over the top. 

    - b



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