On 3 Jul 2008 at 10:03, Scott Reynen wrote:
> On [Jul 2], at [ Jul 2] 4:37 , Bob Jonkman wrote:
>
> > In an appointment, the date IS the content.
>
> *A* date is, but not the ISO date. I think that's a subtle but
> important distinction we've overlooked too often. You never see ISO
> dates presented to (nor entered by) people in applications that work
> with iCalendar. They're only used to *produce* content. I think HTML
> entities are probably the closest analogy. The entities themselves
> are not the content; they're merely used to produce the content in
> various contexts (i.e. character sets). We don't display entities; we
> only display the content they're used (by machines) to produce. If
> we recognize that ISO dates are the same type of information
> ("metadata" or whatever you want to call it), then not displaying
> them isn't a compromise; it's just the obvious way to treat that type
> of information, the same way it's treated everywhere else.
In that case it should be acceptable avoid the use of <abbr>
altogether, so that neither sighted nor hearing people have to put
up with seeing or hearing the metadata.
<span class="dtstart" title="2008-07-06">
tomorrow
</span>
The title text still shows a popup in my browser (FF3), but I don't
believe screen readers speak it. It also doesn't distract sighted
users since a <span> element is by default undecorated, while <abbr>
shows with a dotted underline in FF3. However, styling is dependent
on the browser implemention and can always be specified with CSS
anyway.
I believe that an ISO date is a valid expansion of prosaic dates, so
that <span> is less semantic than using
<abbr class="dtstart" title="2008-07-06">
tomorrow
</abbr>
but that debate appears to have no resolution and I'm willing to
cede just to move along.
--Bob.
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