Yes Chris of course, I can see this. My point though was one of truth and passion and belife or lack of it.
Chaz claims that he is passionate about his non belife in diety becuse he does not wish to see me duped. The very words above serve to highlight that Chaz's passion stems not from this non belife of his, but very firmly from a belife he holds about the non existance of diety. I asked therefore how is it that such passion for the truth can originate from a non belife? I do not belive it can, and so I assume that such passion can only stem from a firmly held belife it self. On 12 Jan, 18:09, "Chris Jenkins" <[email protected]> wrote: > Lee, I can think the idea of a Pink Unicorn is nifty, although in my head, I > may feel it's a bit misguided. However, when the idea of the Pink Unicorn is > being used a basis for social policies which discriminate (gay marriage), > the foundation for moral legislation (marijuana prohibition, vice > legislation, etc.), and as a vehicle for deception (every tele-evangelist > from Oral Roberts to Jim Baker to whoever's on now...), then it becomes a > social responsibility to those of us who are operating from a rational > perspective to take a more active role, and speak out against what is > clearly becoming, or already is, a social detriment. > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yet how can a non-belife show the truth or not? > > > I have a non belife in Russell's teapot, but because I do not belive > > that such a thing does not exists, then there is no passion inherent > > in my non belife. > > > If however, I did have a belife that such a thing as Russell's teapot > > does not exist, then I may feel passionate enough to herangue those > > foolish enough to belive such a thing did exist. > > > You see what I'm saying here Chaz? > > > On 12 Jan, 16:03, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Jan 12, 12:23 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Heh well of course KC that is becuase many Athiest who proclaim a lack > > > > of belife in diety are basiclay lying. They instead have a belife > > > > that such a thing as God does not exist. This then surly explains > > > > their passion. > > > > Nonsense. What make us passionate is feeling that people like you are > > > being duped and duping others. It is passion for truth. > > > > > On 11 Jan, 22:54, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Well Chaz, it was a reasonable question. Is it so far fetched to be > > > > > surprised that someone who doesn't ascribe to a certain belief can be > > > > > so passionate about his absence of belief? It seems counter- > > > > > intuitive. You would imagine that people get passionate over a > > > > > possession of what they perceive to be "the truth", rather than just > > > > > an absence of belief in the proposition. Get passionate about not > > > > > believing that there is life on mars, for example, seems quite silly. > > > > > Being passionate about believing in life after death, heavenly > > beings, > > > > > salvation, little green men on mars, doesn't seem quite so out of the > > > > > ordinary to be passionate about. > > > > > > On Jan 11, 10:48 am, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 10, 6:30 pm, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Where do Atheists find such passion? > > > > > > > What kind of a question is that? You might as ask where do theists > > get > > > > > > their gaul from. > > > > > > Atheists get their passion from the same place that lions get > > their > > > > > > roar from; chimps get their urge to throw bananas. We are evolved > > > > > > animals -get over it. > > > > > > > > On Jan 9, 10:07 am, "Ian Pollard" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Two questions I've been mulling over... > > > > > > > > > 1. The recent atheist bus campaign in London, saw buses with > > the slogan > > > > > > > > "There is probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your > > life." Members > > > > > > > > of Christian Voice -- in attempt to have the adverts removed -- > > have > > > > > > > > complained to the Advertising Standards Authority about the > > accuracy of this > > > > > > > > slogan. Would it be correct for atheists to now complain about > > the accuracy > > > > > > > > of the commercial activities of Christian churches (such as the > > Alpha > > > > > > > > Course)? Or, in reality, are said atheists far too busy arguing > > on Internet > > > > > > > > forums about whether the slogan is in fact *agnostic* and what > > the most > > > > > > > > accurate meaning of the word "probably" is? > > > > > > > > > 2. Should John Travolta be brought to trial for child neglect > > following the > > > > > > > > death of his son? Reports are claiming that his son, who > > suffered from > > > > > > > > autism, was denied prescription drugs and psychiatric > > counselling for his > > > > > > > > illness (that could have helped control his seizures) because > > of his > > > > > > > > father's Scientology beliefs. > > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > > > > > > Ian- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
