And the saliant point here Chaz, is the 'telling lies' how do you know this? How can a non belife include any sort of knowledge based deduction?
On 12 Jan, 23:33, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > On Jan 12, 5:53 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yet how can a non-belife show the truth or not? > > > I have a non belife in Russell's teapot, but because I do not belive > > that such a thing does not exists, then there is no passion inherent > > in my non belife. > > > If however, I did have a belife that such a thing as Russell's teapot > > does not exist, then I may feel passionate enough to herangue those > > foolish enough to belive such a thing did exist. > > > You see what I'm saying here Chaz? > > Not really. I am reacting to people who are telling lies. If Russell's > teapot were nothing more than anobject in orbit around Jupiter - that > is fine. But if the government want to raise 20 trillion dollars in > tax to launch a mission to Jupiter to recover the bloody thing then I > am going to get pretty angry about it. In the same way the religious > delusion is destroying lives and harming many areas of human society. > > > > > > > On 12 Jan, 16:03, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Jan 12, 12:23 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Heh well of course KC that is becuase many Athiest who proclaim a lack > > > > of belife in diety are basiclay lying. They instead have a belife > > > > that such a thing as God does not exist. This then surly explains > > > > their passion. > > > > Nonsense. What make us passionate is feeling that people like you are > > > being duped and duping others. It is passion for truth. > > > > > On 11 Jan, 22:54, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Well Chaz, it was a reasonable question. Is it so far fetched to be > > > > > surprised that someone who doesn't ascribe to a certain belief can be > > > > > so passionate about his absence of belief? It seems counter- > > > > > intuitive. You would imagine that people get passionate over a > > > > > possession of what they perceive to be "the truth", rather than just > > > > > an absence of belief in the proposition. Get passionate about not > > > > > believing that there is life on mars, for example, seems quite silly. > > > > > Being passionate about believing in life after death, heavenly beings, > > > > > salvation, little green men on mars, doesn't seem quite so out of the > > > > > ordinary to be passionate about. > > > > > > On Jan 11, 10:48 am, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 10, 6:30 pm, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Where do Atheists find such passion? > > > > > > > What kind of a question is that? You might as ask where do theists > > > > > > get > > > > > > their gaul from. > > > > > > Atheists get their passion from the same place that lions get their > > > > > > roar from; chimps get their urge to throw bananas. We are evolved > > > > > > animals -get over it. > > > > > > > > On Jan 9, 10:07 am, "Ian Pollard" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Two questions I've been mulling over... > > > > > > > > > 1. The recent atheist bus campaign in London, saw buses with > > > > > > > > the slogan > > > > > > > > "There is probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your > > > > > > > > life." Members > > > > > > > > of Christian Voice -- in attempt to have the adverts removed -- > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > complained to the Advertising Standards Authority about the > > > > > > > > accuracy of this > > > > > > > > slogan. Would it be correct for atheists to now complain about > > > > > > > > the accuracy > > > > > > > > of the commercial activities of Christian churches (such as the > > > > > > > > Alpha > > > > > > > > Course)? Or, in reality, are said atheists far too busy arguing > > > > > > > > on Internet > > > > > > > > forums about whether the slogan is in fact *agnostic* and what > > > > > > > > the most > > > > > > > > accurate meaning of the word "probably" is? > > > > > > > > > 2. Should John Travolta be brought to trial for child neglect > > > > > > > > following the > > > > > > > > death of his son? Reports are claiming that his son, who > > > > > > > > suffered from > > > > > > > > autism, was denied prescription drugs and psychiatric > > > > > > > > counselling for his > > > > > > > > illness (that could have helped control his seizures) because > > > > > > > > of his > > > > > > > > father's Scientology beliefs. > > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > > > > > > Ian- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
