So Chris, your saying the problem with the world isn't too much government but too little government? I'd have to disagree with you there.
I think the flaw in your reasoning is that you assume if something exists everyone is entitled to it. Brain, heart, and lung transplants may either be possible, or in the future possible, but they are modern marvels. No one is entitled to these things. The procedures take a lot of money, time, and expenses to research and implement. People put their heart and soul into such ventures because they believe that it will mean a big pay check in their futures. Not everyone is going to be able to afford a heart transplant. The most obvious reason is not everyone can afford one. Not to mention their aren't enough spare hearts lying around. The countries who have tried to implement socialism have ended up with countries that cannot keep up with those who have not. The only reason that medicine had continued to advance in today's modern society is because America is still relatively capitalistic. We will pay the big bucks for the research and procedures and so people still keep working to make it happen. But if we adopt medical care like Canada's and England's, I think you can kiss credible medical research goodbye. And Education in our society is already socialist. How are you going to make it more Socialist? My contention is that the problem with our education today is precisely because its Socialist. If we privatized education, made the institutions compete, made the teachers compete, then our educational system would be much more competitive. On Jan 21, 2:25 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 4:17 PM, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Jan 20, 7:16 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I've always had trouble with "capitalism" - the word hardly appears in > > > Marx and I've never seen any satisfactory definitions of it as a > > > phenomena. > > > As a phenomenon it is highly misunderstood and applied for dubious > > political purposes. On another Newsgroup I was shocked to see this > > statement in response to my accusation that the writer had no idea > > what socialism was except as a thing to be destroyed to protect us all > > from evil. > > "I take socialism to be the opposite of capitalism. Capitalism is a > > social system based on respect for individual liberty. Socialism is a > > social system based on lack of respect for individual liberty. " > > (I shit you not!) > > This is unbelievable that anyone could have such a stilted view point. > > Capitalism is not a social system, but a description of an economic > > process. > > It all started when we were taught about the United Soviet SOCIALIST > Republic, AKA The Dirty Commies... ;) > > As someone who's lived both here, and in many Socialist countries, I think > we could use a healthy dash of Socialism at home, particularly in the areas > of Education and Healthcare. > > > Performance targets? Tracking? Key Skills? Transferable Skills? CPD? > > Evidence based performance related target? BS? Mangement Speak? > > I believe I can create some effective 3-6 month trending reports which will > help visualize the KPI in question. The data is indisputable. Metrics don't > lie. > > Of course, the people presenting them do... > > > People still > > > managing express concerns that honesty is long gone, but do this > > > quietly because they fear talking of it is career suicide. I wonder > > > if we have confused "capitalism" with some desire to be free of power- > > > (See above!) > > > > freaks and somehow let it into our lives in ways we should have > > > resisted? Everyone is admitting in private (questionnaires etc.) that > > > they are routinely lying - I actually find some very confused people > > > in my practical examinations of organisations - and would like to > > > establish why I feel this is worse now than ever before in my life. I > > > got used to lies as a cop, but this current stuff is something else, > > > more like a disease. > > > It's pretty obvious that Enron was the key model underlying > > > "capitalist" activity. In a similar sense Baby P is probably not an > > > exception but the rule. Lying connects activity in public and private > > > sectors, along with brazen denials that anything is going wrong. Our > > > bwankers have clearly been sitting on top of one hell of a barrel of > > > stealing that dwarfs Enron. > > > I haven't heard the world stop as all this money drops from sight > > > under the magician's cape. I wonder if we could start again without > > > these parasites? > > > Yes there is a place called Utopia. Get your one way tickets! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
