Right, more of those same small indigenous populations, which simply have no room for the personal gain of one at the expense of the others.
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:30 PM, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Jan 22, 12:47 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > The only exceptions I can think of are such small communities of > indigenous > > tribes that there is simply no room for personal gain...the Korowai, > > perhaps, or similar. Do you have any other examples? > > !Kung San of the Kalahari. Yanomano of the Amazon. > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:39 PM, ornamentalmind < > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > The exploitation of resources and labor for personal gain, while not > > > new, is not found in all cultures. Many, yes. > > > > > On Jan 21, 1:25 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 4:17 PM, chazwin <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 20, 7:16 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I've always had trouble with "capitalism" - the word hardly > appears > > > in > > > > > > Marx and I've never seen any satisfactory definitions of it as a > > > > > > phenomena. > > > > > > > As a phenomenon it is highly misunderstood and applied for dubious > > > > > political purposes. On another Newsgroup I was shocked to see this > > > > > statement in response to my accusation that the writer had no idea > > > > > what socialism was except as a thing to be destroyed to protect us > all > > > > > from evil. > > > > > "I take socialism to be the opposite of capitalism. Capitalism is > a > > > > > social system based on respect for individual liberty. Socialism > is a > > > > > social system based on lack of respect for individual liberty. " > > > > > (I shit you not!) > > > > > This is unbelievable that anyone could have such a stilted view > point. > > > > > Capitalism is not a social system, but a description of an economic > > > > > process. > > > > > > It all started when we were taught about the United Soviet SOCIALIST > > > > Republic, AKA The Dirty Commies... ;) > > > > > > As someone who's lived both here, and in many Socialist countries, I > > > think > > > > we could use a healthy dash of Socialism at home, particularly in the > > > areas > > > > of Education and Healthcare. > > > > > > > Performance targets? Tracking? Key Skills? Transferable Skills? > CPD? > > > > > Evidence based performance related target? BS? Mangement Speak? > > > > > > I believe I can create some effective 3-6 month trending reports > which > > > will > > > > help visualize the KPI in question. The data is indisputable. Metrics > > > don't > > > > lie. > > > > > > Of course, the people presenting them do... > > > > > > > People still > > > > > > managing express concerns that honesty is long gone, but do this > > > > > > quietly because they fear talking of it is career suicide. I > wonder > > > > > > if we have confused "capitalism" with some desire to be free of > > > power- > > > > > > > (See above!) > > > > > > > > freaks and somehow let it into our lives in ways we should have > > > > > > resisted? Everyone is admitting in private (questionnaires etc.) > > > that > > > > > > they are routinely lying - I actually find some very confused > people > > > > > > in my practical examinations of organisations - and would like to > > > > > > establish why I feel this is worse now than ever before in my > life. > > > I > > > > > > got used to lies as a cop, but this current stuff is something > else, > > > > > > more like a disease. > > > > > > It's pretty obvious that Enron was the key model underlying > > > > > > "capitalist" activity. In a similar sense Baby P is probably not > an > > > > > > exception but the rule. Lying connects activity in public and > > > private > > > > > > sectors, along with brazen denials that anything is going wrong. > Our > > > > > > bwankers have clearly been sitting on top of one hell of a barrel > of > > > > > > stealing that dwarfs Enron. > > > > > > I haven't heard the world stop as all this money drops from sight > > > > > > under the magician's cape. I wonder if we could start again > without > > > > > > these parasites? > > > > > > > Yes there is a place called Utopia. Get your one way tickets!- Hide > > > quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
