LEEEEEE LEEEE LEEEEE Why don't you try to follow the thread? Archytas and I were talking about Slip Disc's posting, not yours!!!! Why don't you read it through? You will see if you look carefully, that in your last posting to me - you had responded to a statement I was making to Archytas. I had seen your first post on this thread but felt it had not followed up from my first response to Slip Disc - you then responded as if mine were a response to yours - which it was not. You are confused. There is no need to be insulting. I still don't see how your waking up thing is at all relevant to Slip's thread.
I'll ignore the rest of your rantings because they are not relevant. On Jan 27, 6:04 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > Chazy chazy chazy, why do you always do this? > > I merely offered an example mate of how ones state of mind can effect > change your life, why then suddenly procliam it as my problem? > > I'm not even talking about me, I'm not even talking about you, I'm > talking about any human. > > Okay well lets bring it to a more personal level, as it seems that is > what you like. > > Think what your attitude to ohhh I donno, lets just say religion, just > for the fun of it, would be like if you did not feel this anger at > your percived stupidity of those that hold such views, would be like. > > Do you think it would be any diferant? Do you think for example, you > may have somethin more meaningfull to contribute to debate than your > standard rant like 'Perhaps you could point them out. I can't seem to > sieve them out of > the BS. ' > > Do you even understand that your dislike, disgust, and disbelife of > what you percive to be stupidity, colours how you interact with > people. Do you not think that by changing your state of mind when > talking to people like, ohh me I guess, that you may well get > something out of these little to-and-fro's? > > Can you now add anything to the debate, or shall I expect more > 'reactionary Chaz'? > > On 27 Jan, 17:55, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Jan 27, 5:49 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Then allow me. > > > > Chazy babe, do you think that by having a certian state of mind you > > > cannot effect real change in your life? > > > Of course you can. However any state of mind is determined by the > > state of your life. I fail to see how any of this relates to my > > posting above. > > > > A for instance perhaps. > > > > For instance if you 'wake up on the wrong side of the bed' get ready > > > for work, leave the house only to have a car drive through a puddle > > > and splashes your clothes, what are the chances of you losing your rag > > > over it? > > > I never let trivia rile me. Maybe you should have more control? > > > > Now imagine, waking up in a happy mood, you have some great thing to > > > look forward to today and your mood is so buoyant it could make things > > > fly, when the car comes around and splashes your clothes, how do you > > > feel? > > > I think you might want to ask yourself why you have problems some > > mornings and not others. I usually have reasons for my state of mind > > of a morning - How about you? > > > > Would there be a differance do you think? > > > No, there might be a "difference" though. > > What is your point? > > > > On 27 Jan, 17:14, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 27, 4:39 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I used to start an MA research methods class with a magic act. I > > > > > thought it a good way of looking at the differences between illusion > > > > > and reality and an example of how easily we can be bulled. Slip is > > > > > teasing, yet there are good questions. > > > > > Perhaps you could point them out. I can't seem to sieve them out of > > > > the BS. > > > > > > On 27 Jan, 15:24, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 25, 5:13 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Is that it? Are there no scientific data demonstrating the > > > > > > > existence > > > > > > > or not of mental capacity, the transition of subconscious to > > > > > > > reality? > > > > > > > What of Edgar Cayce, Uri Geller, Randi, Libet, Esp, telekinesis, > > > > > > > psychic phenomena, apparitions, stigmata and the many discussions > > > > > > > taken place here regarding these issues? > > > > > > > All of this is demonstrably Bullshit. > > > > > > It is curious that you have Randi in the list - it his he more than > > > > > > most that has shown all this stuff to be a collection of conjuring > > > > > > tricks and weak minded nonsense. The best person I have seen to > > > > > > demonstrate "mentalism" is Derren Brown. He can read minds, levitate > > > > > > tables walk on glass, make impossible predictions - the whole bang- > > > > > > shoot, though he says NONE of it has the slightest thing to do with > > > > > > ESP - its just great psychology; no magic, just illusion. > > > > > > There is however a serious and tragic need to believe and even HIS > > > > > > audiences go away thinking they have seen magic. > > > > > > > Have we reached the point of > > > > > > > > burnout or has rationale become so finite as to totally dismiss > > > > > > > on the > > > > > > > basis of disbelief or absurdity? Is there any correlation between > > > > > > > Jung's Shadow concept and that of Murphy's presentation? Have > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > possibly become locked into that which has dominated their own > > > > > > > subconscious? The road is not a straight line and the earth is > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > flat, cosmic energy and mental awareness is ever present. > > > > > > > >http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/04/mind_decision > > > > > > > > How about > Even 60 milliseconds of exposure to a brand name such > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > Wal-Mart or Tiffany can alter consumers' subconscious > > > > > > > goals, > > > > > > > .................http://esciencenews.com/articles/2008/07/17/ > > > > > > > brand.names.subconsciously.afftect.peoples.shopping.goals > > > > > > > Excerpt: > > > > > > > Our bodies create the illusion that we are separate. This > > > > > > > illusion is > > > > > > > further reinforced by modern science and technology, which is > > > > > > > based on > > > > > > > the Cartesian-Newton paradigm, which posited a division between > > > > > > > mind > > > > > > > and matter and led to a view of the universe as a mechanical > > > > > > > system > > > > > > > consisting of separate objects. > > > > > > > This view fostered life in society as a competitive struggle for > > > > > > > existence and the belief in unlimited material progress to be > > > > > > > achieved > > > > > > > through economic and technological growth. Modern physics and > > > > > > > quantum > > > > > > > mechanics are now discovering what the mystics of the East have > > > > > > > long > > > > > > > known, the basic oneness of the universe. > > > > > > > Modern physics and quantum mechanics are now discovering what the > > > > > > > mystics of the East have long known the basic oneness of the > > > > > > > universe, > > > > > > > what we refer to as Vasudhaiv Kutumbakam. The deeper we study the > > > > > > > composition of matter, we find the web of relations between > > > > > > > various > > > > > > > parts of a unified whole more interconnected. This shift from > > > > > > > object > > > > > > > to relationships has far-reaching implications for both science > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > society as a whole. A thing has to be defined not by what it is in > > > > > > > itself but by its relations to other things. > > > > > > > Quantum mechanics has also proved that the role of the observer > > > > > > > is of > > > > > > > paramount importance in determining reality. Heisenbergs > > > > > > > Uncertainty > > > > > > > Principle proved the impossibility of predicting the position and > > > > > > > momentum of a particle. The mere act of observation changes both. > > > > > > > There is a law of agreement that operates in the universe. Things > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > the way they are because we wish them to be > > > > > > > so.http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Subconscious/id/22148 > > > > > > > > There has to more to it that just flatulent ignition. > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 8:08 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I bet he can even light his own farts Slip. > > > > > > > > > On 25 Jan, 01:49, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Joseph Murphy (1898-1981) > > > > > > > > > Prosperity writer extraordinaire DR. JOSEPH MURPHY wrote, > > > > > > > > > taught, > > > > > > > > > counseled, and lectured to thousands all over the world for > > > > > > > > > nearly > > > > > > > > > fifty years. > > > > > > > > > > Born in 1898, he was educated in Ireland and England. Years of > > > > > > > > > research studying the world’s major religions convinced him > > > > > > > > > that some > > > > > > > > > great Power lay behind them all: The Power is within you! Dr > > > > > > > > > Murphy > > > > > > > > > spent a good part of his life studying Eastern religions, and > > > > > > > > > was a > > > > > > > > > scholar of the I-Ching, the Chinese book of divination whose > > > > > > > > > origins > > > > > > > > > are lost in history. > > > > > > > > > > Joseph Murphy, Ph.D., D.D., was a world-renowned authority on > > > > > > > > > mysticism and mind dynamics. He remains a beacon of > > > > > > > > > enlightenment and > > > > > > > > > inspiration for legions of loyal followers. “You were born to > > > > > > > > > be rich. > > > > > > > > > You grow rich by the use of your God-given faculties, by > > > > > > > > > tuning in > > > > > > > > > with the Infinite, and as your mind becomes productive and > > > > > > > > > full of > > > > > > > > > good ideas, your labor will become more productive and will > > > > > > > > > bring you > > > > > > > > > all kinds of material riches." “There is no virtue whatsoever > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > poverty, which in actual fact is a mental disease, and it > > > > > > > > > should be > > > > > > > > > abolished from the face of the earth. You are here to find > > > > > > > > > your true > > > > > > > > > place in life, and to give of your talents to the world. You > > > > > > > > > are here > > > > > > > > > to expand and unfold in a wonderful way, according to a > > > > > > > > > God-given > > > > > > > > > potential, and to bring forth spiritual, mental, and material > > > > > > > > > riches, > > > > > > > > > which will bless humanity in countless ways. > > > > > > > > > > Learn how to surround yourself always with beauty, and > > > > > > > > > luxury, and > > > > > > > > > realize your inalienable right to live, liberty, freedom and > > > > > > > > > peace of > > > > > > > > > mind. “It is your Divine right to dramatize, reveal, portray > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > express the power, elegance, and riches of the Infinite One.” > > > > > > > > > "I have > > > > > > > > > seen miracles happen to men and women in all walks of life > > > > > > > > > all over > > > > > > > > > the world." -- Dr. Joseph Murphy. > > > > > > > > > > The subconscious responds to habit and habitual thinking. > > > > > > > > > Being > > > > > > > > > totally neutral in a moral sense, it is happy to adopt any > > > > > > > > > habit as > > > > > > > > > ‘normal’ - good or bad. 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