On Jan 28, 11:04 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ohh come on now Chaz, I may be idiotic but an idiot no.
>
> Are you really trying to tell me that this:
>
> 'Maybe you should have more control?' Was directed to SD, even though
> you quoted my previous post above it?
>
> And that this:
>
> ' think you might want to ask yourself why you have problems some
> mornings and not others'
>
> Was likewise?
>
> Come on now mate why don't you follow the thread.
No, these comments were directed at you certainly. You might have
noticed that the posting in which I made those comments was somewhat
blase - tha is because you had attacked me as if I had responded to
your posting about getting up in the morning.
WHilst you are about it, why not answer my points?
But as I thought your stuff about getting up in the morning was not
related to my comments to Slip I had initially ignored them.
In future SO that you know. You should keep your eye on all of the
">>" symbols, These will show you exactly to whom, and upon which,
comments I am commenting on.
LIke I said look back at the thread and you will see where you went
wrong.
>
> On 27 Jan, 22:38, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > LEEEEEE LEEEE LEEEEE
>
> > Why don't you try to follow the thread?
> > Archytas and I were talking about Slip Disc's posting, not yours!!!!
> > Why don't you read it through? You will see if you look carefully,
> > that in your last posting to me - you had responded to a statement I
> > was making to Archytas. I had seen your first post on this thread but
> > felt it had not followed up from my first response to Slip Disc - you
> > then responded as if mine were a response to yours - which it was not.
> > You are confused. There is no need to be insulting.
> > I still don't see how your waking up thing is at all relevant to
> > Slip's thread.
>
> > I'll ignore the rest of your rantings because they are not relevant.
>
> > On Jan 27, 6:04 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Chazy chazy chazy, why do you always do this?
>
> > > I merely offered an example mate of how ones state of mind can effect
> > > change your life, why then suddenly procliam it as my problem?
>
> > > I'm not even talking about me, I'm not even talking about you, I'm
> > > talking about any human.
>
> > > Okay well lets bring it to a more personal level, as it seems that is
> > > what you like.
>
> > > Think what your attitude to ohhh I donno, lets just say religion, just
> > > for the fun of it, would be like if you did not feel this anger at
> > > your percived stupidity of those that hold such views, would be like.
>
> > > Do you think it would be any diferant? Do you think for example, you
> > > may have somethin more meaningfull to contribute to debate than your
> > > standard rant like 'Perhaps you could point them out. I can't seem to
> > > sieve them out of
> > > the BS. '
>
> > > Do you even understand that your dislike, disgust, and disbelife of
> > > what you percive to be stupidity, colours how you interact with
> > > people. Do you not think that by changing your state of mind when
> > > talking to people like, ohh me I guess, that you may well get
> > > something out of these little to-and-fro's?
>
> > > Can you now add anything to the debate, or shall I expect more
> > > 'reactionary Chaz'?
>
> > > On 27 Jan, 17:55, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 27, 5:49 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Then allow me.
>
> > > > > Chazy babe, do you think that by having a certian state of mind you
> > > > > cannot effect real change in your life?
>
> > > > Of course you can. However any state of mind is determined by the
> > > > state of your life. I fail to see how any of this relates to my
> > > > posting above.
>
> > > > > A for instance perhaps.
>
> > > > > For instance if you 'wake up on the wrong side of the bed' get ready
> > > > > for work, leave the house only to have a car drive through a puddle
> > > > > and splashes your clothes, what are the chances of you losing your rag
> > > > > over it?
>
> > > > I never let trivia rile me. Maybe you should have more control?
>
> > > > > Now imagine, waking up in a happy mood, you have some great thing to
> > > > > look forward to today and your mood is so buoyant it could make things
> > > > > fly, when the car comes around and splashes your clothes, how do you
> > > > > feel?
>
> > > > I think you might want to ask yourself why you have problems some
> > > > mornings and not others. I usually have reasons for my state of mind
> > > > of a morning - How about you?
>
> > > > > Would there be a differance do you think?
>
> > > > No, there might be a "difference" though.
> > > > What is your point?
>
> > > > > On 27 Jan, 17:14, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jan 27, 4:39 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I used to start an MA research methods class with a magic act. I
> > > > > > > thought it a good way of looking at the differences between
> > > > > > > illusion
> > > > > > > and reality and an example of how easily we can be bulled. Slip
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > teasing, yet there are good questions.
>
> > > > > > Perhaps you could point them out. I can't seem to sieve them out of
> > > > > > the BS.
>
> > > > > > > On 27 Jan, 15:24, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Jan 25, 5:13 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Is that it? Are there no scientific data demonstrating the
> > > > > > > > > existence
> > > > > > > > > or not of mental capacity, the transition of subconscious to
> > > > > > > > > reality?
> > > > > > > > > What of Edgar Cayce, Uri Geller, Randi, Libet, Esp,
> > > > > > > > > telekinesis,
> > > > > > > > > psychic phenomena, apparitions, stigmata and the many
> > > > > > > > > discussions
> > > > > > > > > taken place here regarding these issues?
>
> > > > > > > > All of this is demonstrably Bullshit.
> > > > > > > > It is curious that you have Randi in the list - it his he more
> > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > most that has shown all this stuff to be a collection of
> > > > > > > > conjuring
> > > > > > > > tricks and weak minded nonsense. The best person I have seen to
> > > > > > > > demonstrate "mentalism" is Derren Brown. He can read minds,
> > > > > > > > levitate
> > > > > > > > tables walk on glass, make impossible predictions - the whole
> > > > > > > > bang-
> > > > > > > > shoot, though he says NONE of it has the slightest thing to do
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > ESP - its just great psychology; no magic, just illusion.
> > > > > > > > There is however a serious and tragic need to believe and even
> > > > > > > > HIS
> > > > > > > > audiences go away thinking they have seen magic.
>
> > > > > > > > Have we reached the point of
>
> > > > > > > > > burnout or has rationale become so finite as to totally
> > > > > > > > > dismiss on the
> > > > > > > > > basis of disbelief or absurdity? Is there any correlation
> > > > > > > > > between
> > > > > > > > > Jung's Shadow concept and that of Murphy's presentation?
> > > > > > > > > Have some
> > > > > > > > > possibly become locked into that which has dominated their own
> > > > > > > > > subconscious? The road is not a straight line and the earth
> > > > > > > > > is not
> > > > > > > > > flat, cosmic energy and mental awareness is ever present.
>
> > > > > > > > >http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/04/mind_decision
>
> > > > > > > > > How about > Even 60 milliseconds of exposure to a brand name
> > > > > > > > > such as
> > > > > > > > > Wal-Mart or Tiffany can alter consumers' subconscious
> > > > > > > > > goals,
> > > > > > > > > .................http://esciencenews.com/articles/2008/07/17/
> > > > > > > > > brand.names.subconsciously.afftect.peoples.shopping.goals
> > > > > > > > > Excerpt:
> > > > > > > > > Our bodies create the illusion that we are separate. This
> > > > > > > > > illusion is
> > > > > > > > > further reinforced by modern science and technology, which is
> > > > > > > > > based on
> > > > > > > > > the Cartesian-Newton paradigm, which posited a division
> > > > > > > > > between mind
> > > > > > > > > and matter and led to a view of the universe as a mechanical
> > > > > > > > > system
> > > > > > > > > consisting of separate objects.
> > > > > > > > > This view fostered life in society as a competitive struggle
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > existence and the belief in unlimited material progress to be
> > > > > > > > > achieved
> > > > > > > > > through economic and technological growth. Modern physics and
> > > > > > > > > quantum
> > > > > > > > > mechanics are now discovering what the mystics of the East
> > > > > > > > > have long
> > > > > > > > > known, the basic oneness of the universe.
> > > > > > > > > Modern physics and quantum mechanics are now discovering what
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > mystics of the East have long known the basic oneness of the
> > > > > > > > > universe,
> > > > > > > > > what we refer to as Vasudhaiv Kutumbakam. The deeper we study
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > composition of matter, we find the web of relations between
> > > > > > > > > various
> > > > > > > > > parts of a unified whole more interconnected. This shift from
> > > > > > > > > object
> > > > > > > > > to relationships has far-reaching implications for both
> > > > > > > > > science and
> > > > > > > > > society as a whole. A thing has to be defined not by what it
> > > > > > > > > is in
> > > > > > > > > itself but by its relations to other things.
> > > > > > > > > Quantum mechanics has also proved that the role of the
> > > > > > > > > observer is of
> > > > > > > > > paramount importance in determining reality. Heisenbergs
> > > > > > > > > Uncertainty
> > > > > > > > > Principle proved the impossibility of predicting the position
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > momentum of a particle. The mere act of observation changes
> > > > > > > > > both.
> > > > > > > > > There is a law of agreement that operates in the universe.
> > > > > > > > > Things are
> > > > > > > > > the way they are because we wish them to be
> > > > > > > > > so.http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Subconscious/id/22148
>
> > > > > > > > > There has to more to it that just flatulent ignition.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 8:08 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > I bet he can even light his own farts Slip.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On 25 Jan, 01:49, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Joseph Murphy (1898-1981)
> > > > > > > > > > > Prosperity writer extraordinaire DR. JOSEPH MURPHY wrote,
> > > > > > > > > > > taught,
> > > > > > > > > > > counseled, and lectured to thousands all over the world
> > > > > > > > > > > for nearly
> > > > > > > > > > > fifty years.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Born in 1898, he was educated in Ireland and England.
> > > > > > > > > > > Years of
> > > > > > > > > > > research studying the world’s major religions convinced
> > > > > > > > > > > him that some
> > > > > > > > > > > great Power lay behind them all: The Power is within you!
> > > > > > > > > > > Dr Murphy
> > > > > > > > > > > spent a good part of his life studying Eastern religions,
> > > > > > > > > > > and was a
> > > > > > > > > > > scholar of the I-Ching, the Chinese book of divination
> > > > > > > > > > > whose origins
> > > > > > > > > > > are lost in history.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Joseph Murphy, Ph.D., D.D., was a world-renowned
> > > > > > > > > > > authority on
> > > > > > > > > > > mysticism and mind dynamics. He remains a
>
> ...
>
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