Sorry Chazy, but you are wrong. It does not matter who you where talking to really, I did not get messed up to which post I was replying, I think you are the confused one.
In fact it was Neil who you asked to show you which are the good questions because you can't sort it from the bullshit. My reply to you was to help you sort the bullshit. This is a forum you can speak to more than one persson at a time, and it is not unknown for members to butt in an answer questiins not possed diectly to them. I attacked you over nothing, please feel free to go back to my first post to you here and you'll see the tone I took was one of banter, and all I really done was offer a few examples of how ones state of mind can effect ones day, which in turn you decided to not answer directly any of it, but choose rather to subject me to a round of the old game 'whats wrong with your life then Lee'. Why Chaz do we have to go through this every single time we try to communcate? Rest assured, I did not get mixed up anywhere, do you get it now, do you understand, have I made myself clear to you? On 28 Jan, 12:18, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > On Jan 28, 11:04 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Ohh come on now Chaz, I may be idiotic but an idiot no. > > > Are you really trying to tell me that this: > > > 'Maybe you should have more control?' Was directed to SD, even though > > you quoted my previous post above it? > > > And that this: > > > ' think you might want to ask yourself why you have problems some > > mornings and not others' > > > Was likewise? > > > Come on now mate why don't you follow the thread. > > No, these comments were directed at you certainly. You might have > noticed that the posting in which I made those comments was somewhat > blase - tha is because you had attacked me as if I had responded to > your posting about getting up in the morning. > WHilst you are about it, why not answer my points? > But as I thought your stuff about getting up in the morning was not > related to my comments to Slip I had initially ignored them. > In future SO that you know. You should keep your eye on all of the > ">>" symbols, These will show you exactly to whom, and upon which, > comments I am commenting on. > LIke I said look back at the thread and you will see where you went > wrong. > > > > > > > On 27 Jan, 22:38, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > LEEEEEE LEEEE LEEEEE > > > > Why don't you try to follow the thread? > > > Archytas and I were talking about Slip Disc's posting, not yours!!!! > > > Why don't you read it through? You will see if you look carefully, > > > that in your last posting to me - you had responded to a statement I > > > was making to Archytas. I had seen your first post on this thread but > > > felt it had not followed up from my first response to Slip Disc - you > > > then responded as if mine were a response to yours - which it was not. > > > You are confused. There is no need to be insulting. > > > I still don't see how your waking up thing is at all relevant to > > > Slip's thread. > > > > I'll ignore the rest of your rantings because they are not relevant. > > > > On Jan 27, 6:04 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Chazy chazy chazy, why do you always do this? > > > > > I merely offered an example mate of how ones state of mind can effect > > > > change your life, why then suddenly procliam it as my problem? > > > > > I'm not even talking about me, I'm not even talking about you, I'm > > > > talking about any human. > > > > > Okay well lets bring it to a more personal level, as it seems that is > > > > what you like. > > > > > Think what your attitude to ohhh I donno, lets just say religion, just > > > > for the fun of it, would be like if you did not feel this anger at > > > > your percived stupidity of those that hold such views, would be like. > > > > > Do you think it would be any diferant? Do you think for example, you > > > > may have somethin more meaningfull to contribute to debate than your > > > > standard rant like 'Perhaps you could point them out. I can't seem to > > > > sieve them out of > > > > the BS. ' > > > > > Do you even understand that your dislike, disgust, and disbelife of > > > > what you percive to be stupidity, colours how you interact with > > > > people. Do you not think that by changing your state of mind when > > > > talking to people like, ohh me I guess, that you may well get > > > > something out of these little to-and-fro's? > > > > > Can you now add anything to the debate, or shall I expect more > > > > 'reactionary Chaz'? > > > > > On 27 Jan, 17:55, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 27, 5:49 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Then allow me. > > > > > > > Chazy babe, do you think that by having a certian state of mind you > > > > > > cannot effect real change in your life? > > > > > > Of course you can. However any state of mind is determined by the > > > > > state of your life. I fail to see how any of this relates to my > > > > > posting above. > > > > > > > A for instance perhaps. > > > > > > > For instance if you 'wake up on the wrong side of the bed' get ready > > > > > > for work, leave the house only to have a car drive through a puddle > > > > > > and splashes your clothes, what are the chances of you losing your > > > > > > rag > > > > > > over it? > > > > > > I never let trivia rile me. Maybe you should have more control? > > > > > > > Now imagine, waking up in a happy mood, you have some great thing to > > > > > > look forward to today and your mood is so buoyant it could make > > > > > > things > > > > > > fly, when the car comes around and splashes your clothes, how do you > > > > > > feel? > > > > > > I think you might want to ask yourself why you have problems some > > > > > mornings and not others. I usually have reasons for my state of mind > > > > > of a morning - How about you? > > > > > > > Would there be a differance do you think? > > > > > > No, there might be a "difference" though. > > > > > What is your point? > > > > > > > On 27 Jan, 17:14, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jan 27, 4:39 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I used to start an MA research methods class with a magic act. > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > thought it a good way of looking at the differences between > > > > > > > > illusion > > > > > > > > and reality and an example of how easily we can be bulled. > > > > > > > > Slip is > > > > > > > > teasing, yet there are good questions. > > > > > > > > Perhaps you could point them out. I can't seem to sieve them out > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the BS. > > > > > > > > > On 27 Jan, 15:24, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 25, 5:13 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Is that it? Are there no scientific data demonstrating the > > > > > > > > > > existence > > > > > > > > > > or not of mental capacity, the transition of subconscious > > > > > > > > > > to reality? > > > > > > > > > > What of Edgar Cayce, Uri Geller, Randi, Libet, Esp, > > > > > > > > > > telekinesis, > > > > > > > > > > psychic phenomena, apparitions, stigmata and the many > > > > > > > > > > discussions > > > > > > > > > > taken place here regarding these issues? > > > > > > > > > > All of this is demonstrably Bullshit. > > > > > > > > > It is curious that you have Randi in the list - it his he > > > > > > > > > more than > > > > > > > > > most that has shown all this stuff to be a collection of > > > > > > > > > conjuring > > > > > > > > > tricks and weak minded nonsense. The best person I have seen > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > demonstrate "mentalism" is Derren Brown. He can read minds, > > > > > > > > > levitate > > > > > > > > > tables walk on glass, make impossible predictions - the whole > > > > > > > > > bang- > > > > > > > > > shoot, though he says NONE of it has the slightest thing to > > > > > > > > > do with > > > > > > > > > ESP - its just great psychology; no magic, just illusion. > > > > > > > > > There is however a serious and tragic need to believe and > > > > > > > > > even HIS > > > > > > > > > audiences go away thinking they have seen magic. > > > > > > > > > > Have we reached the point of > > > > > > > > > > > burnout or has rationale become so finite as to totally > > > > > > > > > > dismiss on the > > > > > > > > > > basis of disbelief or absurdity? Is there any correlation > > > > > > > > > > between > > > > > > > > > > Jung's Shadow concept and that of Murphy's presentation? > > > > > > > > > > Have some > > > > > > > > > > possibly become locked into that which has dominated their > > > > > > > > > > own > > > > > > > > > > subconscious? The road is not a straight line and the > > > > > > > > > > earth is not > > > > > > > > > > flat, cosmic energy and mental awareness is ever present. > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/04/mind_decision > > > > > > > > > > > How about > Even 60 milliseconds of exposure to a brand > > > > > > > > > > name such as > > > > > > > > > > Wal-Mart or Tiffany can alter consumers' subconscious > > > > > > > > > > goals, > > > > > > > > > > .................http://esciencenews.com/articles/2008/07/17/ > > > > > > > > > > brand.names.subconsciously.afftect.peoples.shopping.goals > > > > > > > > > > Excerpt: > > > > > > > > > > Our bodies create the illusion that we are separate. This > > > > > > > > > > illusion is > > > > > > > > > > further reinforced by modern science and technology, which > > > > > > > > > > is based on > > > > > > > > > > the Cartesian-Newton paradigm, which posited a division > > > > > > > > > > between mind > > > > > > > > > > and matter and led to a view of the universe as a > > > > > > > > > > mechanical system > > > > > > > > > > consisting of separate objects. > > > > > > > > > > This view fostered life in society as a competitive > > > > > > > > > > struggle for > > > > > > > > > > existence and the belief in unlimited material progress to > > > > > > > > > > be achieved > > > > > > > > > > through economic and technological growth. Modern physics > > > > > > > > > > and quantum > > > > > > > > > > mechanics are now discovering what the mystics of the East > > > > > > > > > > have long > > > > > > > > > > known, the basic oneness of the universe. > > > > > > > > > > Modern physics and quantum mechanics are now discovering > > > > > > > > > > what the > > > > > > > > > > mystics of the East have long known the basic oneness of > > > > > > > > > > the universe, > > > > > > > > > > what we refer to as Vasudhaiv Kutumbakam. The deeper we > > > > > > > > > > study the > > > > > > > > > > composition of matter, we find the web of relations between > > > > > > > > > > various > > > > > > > > > > parts of a unified whole more interconnected. This shift > > > > > > > > > > from object > > > > > > > > > > to relationships has far-reaching implications for both > > > > > > > > > > science and > > > > > > > > > > society as a whole. A thing has to be defined not by what > > > > > > > > > > it is in > > > > > > > > > > itself but by its relations to other things. > > > > > > > > > > Quantum mechanics has also proved that the role of the > > > > > > > > > > observer is of > > > > > > > > > > paramount importance in determining reality. Heisenbergs > > > > > > > > > > Uncertainty > > > > > > > > > > Principle proved the impossibility of predicting the > > > > > > > > > > position and > > > > > > > > > > momentum of a particle. The mere act of observation changes > > > > > > > > > > both. > > > > > > > > > > There is a law of agreement that operates in the universe. > > > > > > > > > > Things are > > > > > > > > > > the way they are because we wish them to be > > > > > > > > > > so.http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Subconscious/id/22148 > > > > > > > > > > > There has to more to it that just flatulent ignition. > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 8:08 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
