On Jan 27, 9:51 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> I suspect we can't really be bothered Chaz, given the junk and the
> tendency of such stuff to attract idiots.
He's just go the wrong end of the stick.
>
> On 27 Jan, 18:04, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Chazy chazy chazy, why do you always do this?
>
> > I merely offered an example mate of how ones state of mind can effect
> > change your life, why then suddenly procliam it as my problem?
>
> > I'm not even talking about me, I'm not even talking about you, I'm
> > talking about any human.
>
> > Okay well lets bring it to a more personal level, as it seems that is
> > what you like.
>
> > Think what your attitude to ohhh I donno, lets just say religion, just
> > for the fun of it, would be like if you did not feel this anger at
> > your percived stupidity of those that hold such views, would be like.
>
> > Do you think it would be any diferant? Do you think for example, you
> > may have somethin more meaningfull to contribute to debate than your
> > standard rant like 'Perhaps you could point them out. I can't seem to
> > sieve them out of
> > the BS. '
>
> > Do you even understand that your dislike, disgust, and disbelife of
> > what you percive to be stupidity, colours how you interact with
> > people. Do you not think that by changing your state of mind when
> > talking to people like, ohh me I guess, that you may well get
> > something out of these little to-and-fro's?
>
> > Can you now add anything to the debate, or shall I expect more
> > 'reactionary Chaz'?
>
> > On 27 Jan, 17:55, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 27, 5:49 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Then allow me.
>
> > > > Chazy babe, do you think that by having a certian state of mind you
> > > > cannot effect real change in your life?
>
> > > Of course you can. However any state of mind is determined by the
> > > state of your life. I fail to see how any of this relates to my
> > > posting above.
>
> > > > A for instance perhaps.
>
> > > > For instance if you 'wake up on the wrong side of the bed' get ready
> > > > for work, leave the house only to have a car drive through a puddle
> > > > and splashes your clothes, what are the chances of you losing your rag
> > > > over it?
>
> > > I never let trivia rile me. Maybe you should have more control?
>
> > > > Now imagine, waking up in a happy mood, you have some great thing to
> > > > look forward to today and your mood is so buoyant it could make things
> > > > fly, when the car comes around and splashes your clothes, how do you
> > > > feel?
>
> > > I think you might want to ask yourself why you have problems some
> > > mornings and not others. I usually have reasons for my state of mind
> > > of a morning - How about you?
>
> > > > Would there be a differance do you think?
>
> > > No, there might be a "difference" though.
> > > What is your point?
>
> > > > On 27 Jan, 17:14, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jan 27, 4:39 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I used to start an MA research methods class with a magic act. I
> > > > > > thought it a good way of looking at the differences between illusion
> > > > > > and reality and an example of how easily we can be bulled. Slip is
> > > > > > teasing, yet there are good questions.
>
> > > > > Perhaps you could point them out. I can't seem to sieve them out of
> > > > > the BS.
>
> > > > > > On 27 Jan, 15:24, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 25, 5:13 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Is that it? Are there no scientific data demonstrating the
> > > > > > > > existence
> > > > > > > > or not of mental capacity, the transition of subconscious to
> > > > > > > > reality?
> > > > > > > > What of Edgar Cayce, Uri Geller, Randi, Libet, Esp, telekinesis,
> > > > > > > > psychic phenomena, apparitions, stigmata and the many
> > > > > > > > discussions
> > > > > > > > taken place here regarding these issues?
>
> > > > > > > All of this is demonstrably Bullshit.
> > > > > > > It is curious that you have Randi in the list - it his he more
> > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > most that has shown all this stuff to be a collection of conjuring
> > > > > > > tricks and weak minded nonsense. The best person I have seen to
> > > > > > > demonstrate "mentalism" is Derren Brown. He can read minds,
> > > > > > > levitate
> > > > > > > tables walk on glass, make impossible predictions - the whole
> > > > > > > bang-
> > > > > > > shoot, though he says NONE of it has the slightest thing to do
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > ESP - its just great psychology; no magic, just illusion.
> > > > > > > There is however a serious and tragic need to believe and even HIS
> > > > > > > audiences go away thinking they have seen magic.
>
> > > > > > > Have we reached the point of
>
> > > > > > > > burnout or has rationale become so finite as to totally dismiss
> > > > > > > > on the
> > > > > > > > basis of disbelief or absurdity? Is there any correlation
> > > > > > > > between
> > > > > > > > Jung's Shadow concept and that of Murphy's presentation? Have
> > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > possibly become locked into that which has dominated their own
> > > > > > > > subconscious? The road is not a straight line and the earth
> > > > > > > > is not
> > > > > > > > flat, cosmic energy and mental awareness is ever present.
>
> > > > > > > >http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/04/mind_decision
>
> > > > > > > > How about > Even 60 milliseconds of exposure to a brand name
> > > > > > > > such as
> > > > > > > > Wal-Mart or Tiffany can alter consumers' subconscious
> > > > > > > > goals,
> > > > > > > > .................http://esciencenews.com/articles/2008/07/17/
> > > > > > > > brand.names.subconsciously.afftect.peoples.shopping.goals
> > > > > > > > Excerpt:
> > > > > > > > Our bodies create the illusion that we are separate. This
> > > > > > > > illusion is
> > > > > > > > further reinforced by modern science and technology, which is
> > > > > > > > based on
> > > > > > > > the Cartesian-Newton paradigm, which posited a division between
> > > > > > > > mind
> > > > > > > > and matter and led to a view of the universe as a mechanical
> > > > > > > > system
> > > > > > > > consisting of separate objects.
> > > > > > > > This view fostered life in society as a competitive struggle for
> > > > > > > > existence and the belief in unlimited material progress to be
> > > > > > > > achieved
> > > > > > > > through economic and technological growth. Modern physics and
> > > > > > > > quantum
> > > > > > > > mechanics are now discovering what the mystics of the East have
> > > > > > > > long
> > > > > > > > known, the basic oneness of the universe.
> > > > > > > > Modern physics and quantum mechanics are now discovering what
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > mystics of the East have long known the basic oneness of the
> > > > > > > > universe,
> > > > > > > > what we refer to as Vasudhaiv Kutumbakam. The deeper we study
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > composition of matter, we find the web of relations between
> > > > > > > > various
> > > > > > > > parts of a unified whole more interconnected. This shift from
> > > > > > > > object
> > > > > > > > to relationships has far-reaching implications for both science
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > society as a whole. A thing has to be defined not by what it is
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > itself but by its relations to other things.
> > > > > > > > Quantum mechanics has also proved that the role of the observer
> > > > > > > > is of
> > > > > > > > paramount importance in determining reality. Heisenbergs
> > > > > > > > Uncertainty
> > > > > > > > Principle proved the impossibility of predicting the position
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > momentum of a particle. The mere act of observation changes
> > > > > > > > both.
> > > > > > > > There is a law of agreement that operates in the universe.
> > > > > > > > Things are
> > > > > > > > the way they are because we wish them to be
> > > > > > > > so.http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Subconscious/id/22148
>
> > > > > > > > There has to more to it that just flatulent ignition.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 8:08 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > I bet he can even light his own farts Slip.
>
> > > > > > > > > On 25 Jan, 01:49, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Joseph Murphy (1898-1981)
> > > > > > > > > > Prosperity writer extraordinaire DR. JOSEPH MURPHY wrote,
> > > > > > > > > > taught,
> > > > > > > > > > counseled, and lectured to thousands all over the world for
> > > > > > > > > > nearly
> > > > > > > > > > fifty years.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Born in 1898, he was educated in Ireland and England. Years
> > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > research studying the world’s major religions convinced him
> > > > > > > > > > that some
> > > > > > > > > > great Power lay behind them all: The Power is within you!
> > > > > > > > > > Dr Murphy
> > > > > > > > > > spent a good part of his life studying Eastern religions,
> > > > > > > > > > and was a
> > > > > > > > > > scholar of the I-Ching, the Chinese book of divination
> > > > > > > > > > whose origins
> > > > > > > > > > are lost in history.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Joseph Murphy, Ph.D., D.D., was a world-renowned authority
> > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > mysticism and mind dynamics. He remains a beacon of
> > > > > > > > > > enlightenment and
> > > > > > > > > > inspiration for legions of loyal followers. “You were born
> > > > > > > > > > to be rich.
> > > > > > > > > > You grow rich by the use of your God-given faculties, by
> > > > > > > > > > tuning in
> > > > > > > > > > with the Infinite, and as your mind becomes productive and
> > > > > > > > > > full of
> > > > > > > > > > good ideas, your labor will become more productive and will
> > > > > > > > > > bring you
> > > > > > > > > > all kinds of material riches." “There is no virtue
> > > > > > > > > > whatsoever in
> > > > > > > > > > poverty, which in actual fact is a mental disease, and it
> > > > > > > > > > should be
> > > > > > > > > > abolished from the face of the earth. You are here to find
> > > > > > > > > > your true
> > > > > > > > > > place in life, and to give of your talents to the world.
> > > > > > > > > > You are here
> > > > > > > > > > to expand and unfold in a wonderful way, according to a
> > > > > > > > > > God-given
> > > > > > > > > > potential, and to bring forth spiritual, mental, and
> > > > > > > > > > material riches,
> > > > > > > > > > which will bless humanity in countless ways.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Learn how to surround yourself always with beauty, and
> > > > > > > > > > luxury, and
> > > > > > > > > > realize your inalienable right to live, liberty, freedom
> > > > > > > > > > and peace of
> > > > > > > > > > mind. “It is your Divine right to dramatize, reveal,
> > > > > > > > > > portray and
> > > > > > > > > > express the power, elegance, and riches of the Infinite
> > > > > > > > > > One.” "I have
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