Hey Molly, these are the kind of scripts the soft porn industry is waiting for! Go for it! *laughing*
You say: “When we embrace all others as self, all other lives as perfect and complete, the soul has fully matured. In writing this, I can again experience the sensation.” In our minds eye context I’d have to protest, though. My life is neither perfect nor complete, therefore you exclude me from your present(ed) we-sensations. On 17 Mrz., 15:32, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > Please forgive me for being so unclear as seeming to dismiss > rationality. Just as I think the ego is essential to character and > important because it allows us to react and in a split second and not > have to learn everything over and over again, I know that the rational > mind is essential to the development of logic and allows all kinds of > necessary organization for individuals and groups. But we don't end > there, there is much more. Our first inklings of soul may take us > into uncomfortable and unfamiliar territory - karma can be a bitch! > Many of us slip back into our rational comfort zones and try to forget > the calling of soul. But call it will, louder and louder, until a > dark night takes us into that place of nothingness where we are met > with our own humility and invited into the connection of gratitude. > For the brave, soul searching eventually gets much better than that. > By developing our intuition, meditation and contemplation of the > beautiful, we continue our soul searching in ways that are our own. > > For me, my exploration of karma and soul finally became joyful when I > was able to look at multiple past lives simultaneously and recognize > patterns of identity and value. At that point, what was good and evil > in those lives lost their charge because I could understand the > balance in the opposition (sorry for mixing threads here.) I think > this is the point where we can let go of our karma - and look at all > lives, feeling the inherent sacred nature. Karma and its cause and > effect are released and no longer in control. The soul searching > became much more joyful from here, and I think its because this > turning point allows us a direct line to spirit. When we embrace all > others as self, all other lives as perfect and complete, the soul has > fully matured. In writing this, I can again experience the sensation. > > Just as when the ego matures, it can step aside and allow our higher > nature to direct response, at the point mentioned above, the mature > soul steps aside to allow that direct experience of spirit. Yet both > aspects of self continue to support us, allow us to sense and > experience who we are. But here, as you say Slip, we can create our > own experience unencumbered by karma, riding the river of spirit as it > flows. > > I think that there are, and always have been, people that live their > lives as heaven on earth. There are, I think, myriad people in just > as many stages of development, all moving through experience in a way > that provides a congregate harmony. To know and truly feel the > perfection in this is heaven on earth. > > I won't pretend to be in tune with the infinite every moment. But I > have my moments. They can be as painful as saying goodbye to a loved > one for the last time, feeling that we are always together. They can > be as simple as smelling a rose in my garden on a warm spring day and > feeling the joy of that moment in everyone. Or they can be more > complex and much more globally triumphant. But that is not > necessary. Glamour and world recognition aren't necessary. > Integration and connection are. That is my experience so far, anyway. > > On Mar 16, 11:12 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Molly; > > It does not matter how late you arrive to the affair, as your presence > > is always of pertinence and your contributions appreciated, by, let's > > say, most. > > The responses to this thread are insightful and show the true depth of > > Minds Eye thinkers. As for as soul, we shredded the theory, concept > > and belief into finite fragmentation. Your take on soul does coincide > > with mine as being the eternal vessel that holds our identity from all > > lives. I believe the vessel is mostly empty upon initial birth and > > accumulation of knowledge occurs with each lifetime. However, this > > did not go over too well with the scientific community, so I decided > > to package and market souls, still waiting for the first buyer, seems > > no one is really interested in having one, I guess it's the > > maintenance aspect that is the deterrent. > > How the infinity thread transitioned to soul is beyond reach for me, > > but I just ride the river when it flows. One never knows when the > > amenities of life will cease to be, so eat when there is food and > > laugh in times of jest. I agree that the more we are in tune with our > > soul the more the Spirit of cosmic knowledge becomes our cornucopia of > > infinite experience. > > Perhaps we are escapees from an exploding Krypton that happened upon a > > sustainable planet or dumped here by beings from the other side of the > > black hole. For me none of that matters because I still relax in the > > Jacuzzi under the stars or in the midday, reflecting on my life in the > > past, the present or the future. > > I would not discount the rational mind so dismissively as it tends to > > lay out a clearly defined map that bypasses all the garbage and stench > > of the disparaged world. We must rationalize in order to establish > > order within ourselves and that part of the world that is immediately > > around us. The soul avoids detriment through the rational mind. There > > are two sides to rationale Molly, and yes it is true that some use > > rationale to avoid much about soul. I personally cannot ignore it, as > > I know my paintings, music, and general artistry and multiplicity come > > from somewhere beyond here. I wasn't given the name hombre milagro for > > nothing. The name comes from the fact that I have the innate sense > > that I can do anything that my mind sets forth to do. And, if that is > > unachievable there will be someone else that will simply come along to > > get it done for me. I've learned much in this lifetime so far and > > have much more to learn as we all do, as individuals and as > > societies. > > We struggle and press forward in the hope that one day, as in a dream, > > life will simply become the utopia it was meant to be. I find no need > > for economic systems, but simply the need for each to understand that > > souls, as much as being individual, are all part of a unity of cosmic > > knowledge. I don't see this happening any time soon because humanity > > is continually preoccupied with self. > > > On Mar 16, 2:17 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I am so sorry to be late to this discussion! As I read through the > > > many viewpoints, I can't help but see the thread of truth in all - and > > > that thread leads to soul! I see the soul as our eternal vessel, > > > holding our identity from all lives, karma, and also having senses > > > like the body has senses. "Let those with eyes see!" This well known > > > passage, of course, refers to soul vision. I think that like the ego, > > > that holds our personality and patterns of sensation coming from the > > > physical senses, our soul allows us sensations of spirit and the > > > infinite. The more in tune we are to our soul and all it offers, the > > > more we allow God, or spirit or the infinite aspect of life into our > > > lives and experience. The more in tune we are with our rational mind, > > > the less our soulful nature is expressed. > > > > Of course, everything expressed here is true, because each of us has a > > > viewpoint that reflects varying degrees of rationality and > > > soulfulness. > > > > I marvel at Justin's ability to make the philosophical case for the > > > possibility of soul, as it requires neither time nor space, but > > > realizes both through the recognition of our individual lives and > > > moments. I can also appreciate Pat's ability to allow physics to lead > > > the way to soul, and while we may not have definitive theories today, > > > there may be some tomorrow with a simple change in viewpoint. I > > > smile, of course, and agree with Neil's plea for soul to show itself > > > in this world with love and harmony. And empathize with Slip's > > > intuitive understanding, which I can feel and understand best. Vam's > > > words are like water, the very nature of spirit. And gabby, like the > > > bible, leads us along with allegory, very soulful, indeed. > > > > Of course you know, that I believe this group to be a wonderful soul > > > process, as we hold the space of possibility in points across the > > > globe. Thanks for the contemplation. > > > > On Mar 15, 1:59 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Wood, you have completely misconstrued the meaning of my post which > > > > you also have taken as an individual post without consideration of it > > > > being a reply to the post of another. > > > > > Let's clarify! > > > > Fran posted on Mar 7, at 10:02 "But none of this "needs" some kind > > > > of immaterial soul to hold it > > > > together. > > > > (in other words fran does not find the need to have a soul) > > > > > So I responded with........."The soul is not something you "need", it > > > > is something you have, something you are.” > > > > > So I am not stating that I don't "Need" a soul but more so that a soul > > > > does not exist "Out of Need". > > > > > Is this clear? > > > > > IF you will read further you will see that I clearly state my view of > > > > soul within the Mar 7 10:39 post I wrote: > > > > > I think the "key" word here is "need", which clearly was not a part or > > > > portion of any soul posit. > > > > You don't have a soul because you need one, you just have one. > > > > You don't have a physical body because you need one, you just have > > > > one. Look in the mirror, you are there! Not because you "Need" to be > > > > there but because you just are, just as your soul IS. > > > > > Are the clouds dissipating? > > > > > You are really making my work here wood! > > > > > Remember to read back through posts, especially since you come in to > > > > visit rarely. You can't just show up at will, pick out one post and > > > > comment on it without reviewing the entire thread. Now come by > > > > everyday and become an active participant in > > ... > > Erfahren Sie mehr » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
