Maybe if you aren't willing to put forth the effort, then you don't
deserve the experience.  Sounds like these hallucinogens are a
spiritual experience for the lazy.  A perfect fit for modern america I
guess.

On Mar 22, 7:10 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> I would posit that there are few people anymore who practice the rituals to 
> the degree necessary to self manufacture the amounts of DMT necessary to have 
> the "religious experience". Buddhist monks, perhaps, and some extreme 
> branches of Catholicism who still practice flagellation. For the rest of us, 
> a legitimately altered state of reality is not likely to occur without 
> assistance.
>
>
>
> [ Attached Message ]From:Slip Disc <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" 
> <[email protected]>Date:Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:07:12 -0700 
> (PDT)Local:Sun, Mar 22 2009 5:07 pmSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: Speaking of Out 
> of Body Experiences...
>
> I guess I'm going to have to take another look at the DMT you tossed
> at me on another occasion, you see Chris, I didn't forget!
>
> I'm glad that people can have the liberty to practice their faith in
> the way they see fit without interference from big brother.
>
> The question is, though, why do religions need to use hallucinogens if
> there is sufficiency in their spiritual beliefs?
>
> Just a thought.
>
> On Mar 22, 12:28 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:> A 
> Judge in Oregon has ruled that the use of Amazonian plants for the
> > purpose of legitimate religious hallucinogenic experience is legal:
>
> >http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OR_HALLUCINOGENIC_TEA_OROL-?SI...
>
> > The active ingredient for the "Spirit Walk"? DMT.
>
> 

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