"There is no control or tax over homegrown production and therefore
government generates revenue on the illegality of its use. ..." - SD

IF you are talking pot...the only thing 'illegal' about growing it is
IF one does not pay the tax for doing so...oh, and one needs a permit
to grow it too....

On Mar 22, 7:48 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is no control or tax over homegrown production and therefore
> government generates revenue on the illegality of its use.  I've seen
> numerous professional lives and their families destroyed by the
> ridiculous designation of home growables as illegal substance.
> Meanwhile a large portion of the supposed enforcers of such laws are
> avid users of said illegal substance.  Alcohol is legal because it can
> be controlled and taxed.  People can't just pour out some whiskey in
> the garden and wait for the bottles to pop up but people can toss out
> some seeds and wait for the buds.  This obviously is a matter of
> "Billions" of dollars in revenue based on the illegality.  What would
> these idiots who scour through wild brush and jungles looking for
> plants do if suddenly the plants became legal?  I could see the look
> on their faces upon the news that legality has deemed their services
> no longer a necessity.  Meanwhile a multitude of government officials
> bathe in alcoholic soup.
>
> On Mar 22, 8:59 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Entheogens are an interesting topic. In most cases, they are an
> > integral aspect of the human search. In a few, it is a door of
> > compensation for an overloaded psyche. And, the apparent difference
> > would be an entire other topic.
> > For those who wish to rush to Oregon to get 'high'...recently the
> > state (and federal government) has imposed some draconian 'search and
> > destroy' measures on simple pot smokers...and those who merely wish to
> > grow hemp for comercial purposes...as was done last century using
> > seeds with almost no psychoactive ingredients at all.
> > Not a drug friendly state overall.
>
> > On Mar 22, 6:33 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I agree (imagine that), that's why I drink wine.  I find that it
> > > alleviates the mind from the everyday encounters that seem to dominate
> > > thought and therefore allows for a more open field of mental
> > > exploration.  I had in the past indulged in much of the hallucinogen
> > > varieties and daily cannabis but these days I find that acquiring such
> > > amenities requires the dealing with unsavory characters with whom I
> > > would rather not risk being with at the wrong place at the wrong time
> > > and then serving prison time.  If legality would finally make its day
> > > I would definitely alternate accordingly.  Instead of stewing my liver
> > > I could smoke my lungs. LOL   But of course we all know that no matter
> > > how much you take care of yourself, death awaits.  The inevitable end
> > > comes no matter what occurs throughout life.
>
> > > On Mar 22, 8:10 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I would posit that there are few people anymore who practice the 
> > > > rituals to the degree necessary to self manufacture the amounts of DMT 
> > > > necessary to have the "religious experience". Buddhist monks, perhaps, 
> > > > and some extreme branches of Catholicism who still practice 
> > > > flagellation. For the rest of us, a legitimately altered state of 
> > > > reality is not likely to occur without assistance.
>
> > > > [ Attached Message ]From:Slip Disc <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" 
> > > > <[email protected]>Date:Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:07:12 -0700 
> > > > (PDT)Local:Sun, Mar 22 2009 6:07 pmSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: Speaking of 
> > > > Out of Body Experiences...
>
> > > > I guess I'm going to have to take another look at the DMT you tossed
> > > > at me on another occasion, you see Chris, I didn't forget!
>
> > > > I'm glad that people can have the liberty to practice their faith in
> > > > the way they see fit without interference from big brother.
>
> > > > The question is, though, why do religions need to use hallucinogens if
> > > > there is sufficiency in their spiritual beliefs?
>
> > > > Just a thought.
>
> > > > On Mar 22, 12:28 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:> 
> > > > A Judge in Oregon has ruled that the use of Amazonian plants for the
> > > > > purpose of legitimate religious hallucinogenic experience is legal:
>
> > > > >http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OR_HALLUCINOGENIC_TEA_OROL-?SI...
>
> > > > > The active ingredient for the "Spirit Walk"? DMT.- Hide quoted text -
>
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