Chris, What I meant by perfect fit for modern america is that we are always looking for a quick fix. We Americans don't like to put forth effort. I did not mean that physchodelic drugs are not ancient.
On Mar 22, 9:43 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > Ayahuasca tea, along with the ritual use of amanita muscaria, is not a > modern american ritual at all. These are South American immigrants, > Craig. Did you not read the article? This is a religion that has > archaeological evidence dating it at least as old as Christianity, > perhaps two to three times as old as that. > > Nothing modern at all about the use of psycho-actives. If anything, > it's a modern idea that you can achieve a "spiritual state" without > them. > > > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Maybe if you aren't willing to put forth the effort, then you don't > > deserve the experience. Sounds like these hallucinogens are a > > spiritual experience for the lazy. A perfect fit for modern america I > > guess. > > > On Mar 22, 7:10 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I would posit that there are few people anymore who practice the rituals > >> to the degree necessary to self manufacture the amounts of DMT necessary > >> to have the "religious experience". Buddhist monks, perhaps, and some > >> extreme branches of Catholicism who still practice flagellation. For the > >> rest of us, a legitimately altered state of reality is not likely to occur > >> without assistance. > > >> [ Attached Message ]From:Slip Disc <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" > >> <[email protected]>Date:Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:07:12 -0700 > >> (PDT)Local:Sun, Mar 22 2009 5:07 pmSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: Speaking of > >> Out of Body Experiences... > > >> I guess I'm going to have to take another look at the DMT you tossed > >> at me on another occasion, you see Chris, I didn't forget! > > >> I'm glad that people can have the liberty to practice their faith in > >> the way they see fit without interference from big brother. > > >> The question is, though, why do religions need to use hallucinogens if > >> there is sufficiency in their spiritual beliefs? > > >> Just a thought. > > >> On Mar 22, 12:28 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:> A > >> Judge in Oregon has ruled that the use of Amazonian plants for the > >> > purpose of legitimate religious hallucinogenic experience is legal: > > >> >http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OR_HALLUCINOGENIC_TEA_OROL-?SI... > > >> > The active ingredient for the "Spirit Walk"? DMT.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
