I want to say that I throughly enjoyed the responses..

The real question comes down to either the greater good or personal gain..
i know many doctors and business men who I greatly admire.

But then  there is the intern that is only in for the money,, and can tell
you to the month that he will e a millionaire .  Or the lawyers that cheat
their clients,,  or hospitals that bill for services they did not render.
(had that happen they  over billed me by $6280. and were threatening to take
me to court..  they chickened out.. darn)  and the imorality list can go on
and on.. many of these people are very nice when you know them  but their
underling morality leaves something to be desired.

I can not justify anyone who does not pay a living wage,, so they can have a
greater income..  to humanity comes first.. it is not earth first we will
strip mine the other planets later..

when wealth is used for the benefit of mankind I am all for it.  but when
seeking of wealth for wealth sake at the expense of people , i do have a
problem with that.

As for morality I think everyone has the obligation to serve the God of
their understanding, how ever they conceive him/her/it to be. that is what
they are responsible for. unfortunately it seems to many have money has
become their god..

People need to look at just what there morality is.

I am hoping people will take a long look at normal day to day activities
from the perspective of morality because that is what defines a persons
morality.

Morality is defined by  how you live your life ,, not the words you have
spoken.

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I doubt that many people would see loan interest as immoral.  Yet you
> see it this way because it goes against what you feel is good for
> you.  Is morality only what we feel is good for us?  Or is there a
> greater good to consider?
>
> On Apr 7, 2:55 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Frayed knot is an interesting way of putting it.
> >
> > I think society is more immoral than moral. I think most people agree
> that
> > killing some one is wrong.  My problem  with morality is when some one
> > charges excessive interest like in credit cards (my wife and I have one
> --
> > and it is for emergencies only  -- then immediately paid off )
>  justifying
> > this as sound business when in reality to me it seems like this greed is
> a
> > way of slowly killing some one, or Like ( i do  have a very good health
> > insurance.) when I ended up in the hospital a few years back in the USA
> and
> > the bill exceeded $8,000. for 24 hour stay..  basically to get my heart
> beat
> > stabilized and watched. I saw 2 doctors for a total of 10 minutes..
> > If I did not have insurance i would have an huge medical bill and to pay
> it
> > I would have had to take food of my table to pay the bill. To me if a
> person
> > is forced to pay an excessive amount to cover a bill cutting back on
> normal
> > expenses to pay it,, the hospital is killing that person.
> >
> > or by charging excessive rent.. or a myriad of other ways of killing some
> > one legally .. the slower the better..
> >
> > On my savings account I am paid a meager 2.6 % but if I want to borrow
> money
> > I have to pay 9.8% If I depended upon that interest for my living again
> > corporate greed would be killing me..  and this difference is immoral yet
> it
> > is easily justified as business.
> >
> > I think people many people only want to appear to be moral  yet at the
> same
> > time want to use business or corporations to hide their immorality.
> >
> > The only conclusion I can reach is people prefer to be immoral. Just
> talking
> > the talk not walking the walk of morality.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Evil reconciled to good?  Frayed knot!
> >
> > > On Apr 5, 10:18 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Why is evil always so hard to nail down or why does it seem that no
> > > > one really wants to identify it but simply dissect the potentiality
> of
> > > > what it may define. You don't consider anything on the video as evil
> > > > but do recognize it as bad, horrifying and obscene, which basically
> > > > covers the face of evil, but rather bypass evil representation to
> > > > bring attention to religious aspects, which by the way I agree with
> > > > 100%, don't burn your steak here. The dark ages are still upon us
> > > > brother and while technology creates a vision of advancement,
> > > > attitudes and behaviours create a different picture, the picture of
> > > > reality, of good and of evil.  I feel we must somehow find resolve in
> > > > the issue of what is evil.  We have here a collection of brilliant
> > > > minds, myself excluded lol, and so we can somehow be assertive in our
> > > > resolve.  I find too many threads wind up as fray ends.  Which
> reminds
> > > > me of a thread that walked into a bar, the bartender said "we don't
> > > > serve threads", so the thread walked out, shredded out it's end and
> > > > tied itself into a loop, walked back into the bar, the bartender
> > > > noticed and immediately and irately said, "damn, I told you we don't
> > > > serve threads in here", the thread responded "I'm not a thread" at
> > > > which the bartender scowled, "you are so" and so the thread having
> the
> > > > last word said "nope, I'm a frayed knot".
> >
> > > > On Apr 5, 12:26 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Thanks Slip.  I don't really consider what is going on in the video
> > > > > and what it represents as evil.  It is bad, it is horrifying, it is
> > > > > obscene, but it is also no more than religion battling it's
> fiercest
> > > > > foe -- education and enlightenment.  On the other hand, religion
> > > > > considers education and enlightenment evil -- the work of the
> devil.
> >
> > > > > On Apr 4, 2:05 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Thanks for the video gruff, it was overwhelmingly sad but very
> > > > > > enlightening as to the seriousness and the dilemma of these
> people.
> > > It
> > > > > > takes me back over to the other thread, Does Evil Exist.  One
> only
> > > > > > needs to watch this video for the answer.
> >
> > > > > > On Apr 4, 3:38 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > Here is a good reason for moral behavior -- call it what you
> like
> > > (we
> > > > > > > are our brother's keeper, the golden rule, do unto others,
> etc.) --
> > >http://video.nytimes.com/video/2009/02/22/world/asia/1194838044017/cl.
> ..
> >
> > --
> > (
> >  )
> > I_D Allan
> >
>


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