Even though it appears you are asking someone else, I'll chime in since I pointed it out... The notion of good/bad does not have to enter into it. It can and apparently you are doing so. I would posit that this is the case for about everything. And, taking it a tad further, looking at just the first definition:
http://www.onelook.com/?w=bias&ls=a IF one considers having an objective consideration of an issue or situation to be important, then one could say that being biased is 'bad'...since it prevents such a state. There are common idioms that do give the term the spin you apparently have taken on...it is not necessary nor the only way to think/talk/ write. In fact, for clarity, one would want to explore much deeper. And, again IF you are talking about USA media when you say 'news'....of course one will come up with opinion rather than any possiblity of objectivity! That has been the case for a few decades now, sadly. I seldom if ever listen to the 'news'...it has degenerated into infotainment at best. When you ask about 'ones determination of the validity or truthfulness of another persons words, without any previous notion, alliance or prejudice..", it sounds like you are quoting from a dictionary, are you? Regardless, such a situation is so rare as to be almost never found...at least that is how I see it. On Apr 28, 8:58 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > then i presume being biased could be considered a good thing? because > everbody has opinions. i was under the impression that it referred to > a negative or non-objective slant on something, but from what you are > indicating, being biased could also be considered a positive thing. is > this correct? i mean, i have heard someone saying 'well, im biased, > but after all he is my kid'. maybe ive been oversaturated with the way > it used on the news! ;-^( ...on the other hand, a simple opinion about > something, say ones determination of the validity or truthfulness of > another persons words, without any previous notion, alliance or > prejudice, imo, could not be considered bias, but just an opinion. > what say? > > On Apr 28, 9:13 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Yes! Bias and Opinion are synonyms. :) > > > 2009/4/28 e_space <[email protected]>: > > > > ok...so everyone that has an opinion is biased? > > > > On Apr 27, 10:29 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> "i see...so either u dont have any opinions or your biased...right? " > > >> - e-s > > > >> No, by definition an opinion is subjective and thus a bias...based > > >> upon one's past. > > > >> On Apr 27, 5:36 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > i see...so either u dont have any opinions or your biased...right? > > > >> > On Apr 27, 5:57 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > > "...unless stating an opinion could be considered > > >> > > biased. ..." - e-s > > > >> > > Well, yes, you could say that that is the case. In fact, it IS the > > >> > > case. > > > >> > > On Apr 27, 1:57 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > > > without referrence to what u consider jumbled or out of focus i > > >> > > > cannot > > >> > > > comment unless its a generalization. i do not feel i have offered a > > >> > > > bias on anything, unless stating an opinion could be considered > > >> > > > biased. im not sure what u mean by "It is difficult to understand > > >> > > > the > > >> > > > message being portrayed especially when words are taken back and > > >> > > > other's opinions are the core basis for new ideas.", so again i > > >> > > > cant > > >> > > > comment...as far as making u think...hey, sorry bout that! ;-^) > > > >> > > > On Apr 27, 2:24 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > > > > I will refrain from giving a negative opinion, as that is most > > >> > > > > likely > > >> > > > > what will end up being interpreted. But I too find e's comments > > >> > > > > a bit > > >> > > > > jumbled and out of focus. It is difficult to understand the > > >> > > > > message > > >> > > > > being portrayed especially when words are taken back and other's > > >> > > > > opinions are the core basis for new ideas. e try to remain > > >> > > > > focused > > >> > > > > and find non-biased validity in your claims. I do enjoy reading > > >> > > > > everyone's comments and find each and every contributor to be a > > >> > > > > worthy > > >> > > > > donor. Your input causes me to think. > > > >> > > > > On Apr 27, 11:00 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > Synonym for "wow". Alleged etymology: A way of saying "Jesus!" > > >> > > > > > without > > >> > > > > > being accused of swearing. More often used as a negative > > >> > > > > > exclamation > > >> > > > > > than a positive one. > > > >> > > > > >http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gee%20wiz > > > >> > > > > > Caustic? LOL I'm sure Orn was up all night crying his eyes > > >> > > > > > out! > > >> > > > > > Stop projecting your own interpretation, regardless of the > > >> > > > > > inaccuracy, > > >> > > > > > onto Orn. > > > >> > > > > > 'superficial, > > >> > > > > > frenetic, without depth, simplistic interpretation, mental > > >> > > > > > cache dump, > > >> > > > > > etc.<<< espace > > > >> > > > > > Caustic? Lesson? Teacher? Preach? What? > > > >> > > > > > Again you project your own timidity upon other readers. If > > >> > > > > > you are > > >> > > > > > offended it is your personal choice to feel that way but that > > >> > > > > > in and > > >> > > > > > of itself does not attach new meaning to words very commonly > > >> > > > > > used in > > >> > > > > > Minds Eye, many of which I learned to use from others, > > >> > > > > > including > > >> > > > > > Orn. > > > >> > > > > > I would have to ask other members if you have any clue of what > > >> > > > > > you are > > >> > > > > > saying because I certainly don't think you know what you are > > >> > > > > > talking > > >> > > > > > about. Unless of course I get out my espace dictionary. > > > >> > > > > > On Apr 27, 7:03 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > if the answer is gee whiz, one would then have to ask, is > > >> > > > > > > gee whiz a > > >> > > > > > > short form for jesus? > > > >> > > > > > > i believe u misinterpreted OM's post. i think she was > > >> > > > > > > agreeing with > > >> > > > > > > u. > > > >> > > > > > > just a thought...you might want to consider changing the > > >> > > > > > > terminology > > >> > > > > > > you use to something a bit more pallatable for the readers > > >> > > > > > > of your > > >> > > > > > > responses? you refer to others posts using words such as > > >> > > > > > > 'superficial, > > >> > > > > > > frenetic, without depth, simplistic interpretation, mental > > >> > > > > > > cache dump, > > >> > > > > > > etc. if one is trying to get a point across it is much > > >> > > > > > > better to do so > > >> > > > > > > without attempting to offend the other, because if u do, > > >> > > > > > > even if the > > >> > > > > > > words u are saying make sense, the reader will not have a > > >> > > > > > > good > > >> > > > > > > interpretation of the 'lesson', because they will not > > >> > > > > > > appreciate the > > >> > > > > > > 'teacher'...your 'meaning' doesnt have to be 'demeaning'. u > > >> > > > > > > have some > > >> > > > > > > good thoughts and comments...if they were slightly less > > >> > > > > > > caustic they > > >> > > > > > > might be a bit easier to swallow...again, just an observation > > > >> > > > > > > On Apr 27, 1:31 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > In your situation there is a huge difference, in that the > > >> > > > > > > > group is not > > >> > > > > > > > local to your community. Actually, I don't really see the > > >> > > > > > > > comparison, > > >> > > > > > > > that would be like me hanging with the Pope and then > > >> > > > > > > > expecting a phone > > >> > > > > > > > call from the Vatican. Still, I would think that at least > > >> > > > > > > > one person > > >> > > > > > > > from the whole should reach out, there is some degree of > > >> > > > > > > > failure there > > >> > > > > > > > on their part. Let me also add that you did not just fail > > >> > > > > > > > to show up > > >> > > > > > > > the next day while recording his speeches which > > >> > > > > > > > would/should trigger a > > >> > > > > > > > concern as to your well being, I would think. > > > >> > > > > > > > Your simplistic interpretation of my approach is > > >> > > > > > > > superficial, without > > >> > > > > > > > depth. Failure to show any concern for someone who > > >> > > > > > > > becomes part of a > > >> > > > > > > > spiritual family in a local community church is a > > >> > > > > > > > reflection of the > > >> > > > > > > > congregates ability to live up to the spiritual tenets > > >> > > > > > > > that they > > >> > > > > > > > purport to espouse. I would expect, after months of > > >> > > > > > > > playing/singing > > >> > > > > > > > for the choir and receiving expressions of gratitude, for > > >> > > > > > > > gratuitousness and ability, from attendees that someone > > >> > > > > > > > would ask > > >> > > > > > > > someone else what happened to the player/singer, with the > > >> > > > > > > > reply > > >> > > > > > > > being, I don't know we need to call and see if all is > > >> > > > > > > > well. It is > > >> > > > > > > > very simple really, especially when you consider that the > > >> > > > > > > > congregation > > >> > > > > > > > (not an organization) may only consist of a hundred > > >> > > > > > > > members or less. > > >> > > > > > > > So your judgment on the matter of my judgment is > > >> > > > > > > > incorrect, partially > > >> > > > > > > > because I had failed to initially present the related and > > >> > > > > > > > relevant > > >> > > > > > > > facts. It is years ago now anyway and I haven't any > > >> > > > > > > > affiliations nor > > >> > > > > > > > need of any so it doesn't matter, but if I did I would > > >> > > > > > > > rather belong > > >> > > > > > > > to a family instead of an organization. > > >> > > > > > > > Part of the problem is the lack of instilling that sense > > >> > > > > > > > of family > > >> > > > > > > > within the spiritual community. They take your money, > > >> > > > > > > > your time and > > >> > > > > > > > service and then you return to being a number, not a > > >> > > > > > > > member. I > > >> > > > > > > > personally expect more from a group, any group, in which I > > >> > > > > > > > would spend > > >> > > > > > > > my time engaging in spirituality. This is one area where > > >> > > > > > > > collective > > >> > > > > > > > mentality would make a significant difference. As you > > >> > > > > > > > say, we are > > >> > > > > > > > one, at least we should be! > > > >> > > > > > > > Thank You! > > >> > > > > > > > I rest my case. > > > >> > > > > > > > There will be a short recess and then the jury will decide > > >> > > > > > > > the > > >> > > > > > > > verdict, unless Judge Judy calls in, and now a word from > > >> > > > > > > > our > > >> > > > > > > > sponsors. > > > >> > > > > > > > Need a new car? Call gruff's auto! > > > >> > > > > > > > By the way, orn, is geezzz short for gee wiz or Jesus?- > > >> > > > > > > > Hide quoted text - > > > >> > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > >> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > >> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > >> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > >> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
