I am going to be prejudice and single out bias as simply meaning a judgement imposed.
I am kidding, not interested in the continuance of a discussion based on a word that we all know and understand the meaning of. On Apr 28, 5:28 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > You are heading for the right direction with the prefixation of your > biases. In your terms, of course. > > On 28 Apr., 22:08, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Ornamental has summed it up nicely. I am biased towards a nice cut of > > rare Ahi Tuna. Is that a bad thing? Bias carries such a negative > > connotation because there have been so many victims of it...but even > > then, we don't think of all of them, do we? How many people have you > > chosen not to date, because you did not find them attractive? Look, a > > multitude of victims of bias! > > > Substitute then the word 'preference', and see how that tastes. > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:15 PM, ornamentalmind > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Even though it appears you are asking someone else, I'll chime in > > > since I pointed it out... > > > The notion of good/bad does not have to enter into it. It can and > > > apparently you are doing so. I would posit that this is the case for > > > about everything. > > > And, taking it a tad further, looking at just the first definition: > > > >http://www.onelook.com/?w=bias&ls=a > > > > IF one considers having an objective consideration of an issue or > > > situation to be important, then one could say that being biased is > > > 'bad'...since it prevents such a state. > > > > There are common idioms that do give the term the spin you apparently > > > have taken on...it is not necessary nor the only way to think/talk/ > > > write. In fact, for clarity, one would want to explore much deeper. > > > > And, again IF you are talking about USA media when you say > > > 'news'....of course one will come up with opinion rather than any > > > possiblity of objectivity! That has been the case for a few decades > > > now, sadly. I seldom if ever listen to the 'news'...it has degenerated > > > into infotainment at best. > > > > When you ask about 'ones determination of the validity or truthfulness > > > of another persons words, without any previous notion, alliance or > > > prejudice..", it sounds like you are quoting from a dictionary, are > > > you? Regardless, such a situation is so rare as to be almost never > > > found...at least that is how I see it. > > > > On Apr 28, 8:58 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> then i presume being biased could be considered a good thing? because > > >> everbody has opinions. i was under the impression that it referred to > > >> a negative or non-objective slant on something, but from what you are > > >> indicating, being biased could also be considered a positive thing. is > > >> this correct? i mean, i have heard someone saying 'well, im biased, > > >> but after all he is my kid'. maybe ive been oversaturated with the way > > >> it used on the news! ;-^( ...on the other hand, a simple opinion about > > >> something, say ones determination of the validity or truthfulness of > > >> another persons words, without any previous notion, alliance or > > >> prejudice, imo, could not be considered bias, but just an opinion. > > >> what say? > > > >> On Apr 28, 9:13 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > Yes! Bias and Opinion are synonyms. :) > > > >> > 2009/4/28 e_space <[email protected]>: > > > >> > > ok...so everyone that has an opinion is biased? > > > >> > > On Apr 27, 10:29 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > >> "i see...so either u dont have any opinions or your biased...right? > > >> > >> " > > >> > >> - e-s > > > >> > >> No, by definition an opinion is subjective and thus a bias...based > > >> > >> upon one's past. > > > >> > >> On Apr 27, 5:36 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > i see...so either u dont have any opinions or your biased...right? > > > >> > >> > On Apr 27, 5:57 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > >> > >> > wrote: > > > >> > >> > > "...unless stating an opinion could be considered > > >> > >> > > biased. ..." - e-s > > > >> > >> > > Well, yes, you could say that that is the case. In fact, it IS > > >> > >> > > the > > >> > >> > > case. > > > >> > >> > > On Apr 27, 1:57 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > without referrence to what u consider jumbled or out of focus > > >> > >> > > > i cannot > > >> > >> > > > comment unless its a generalization. i do not feel i have > > >> > >> > > > offered a > > >> > >> > > > bias on anything, unless stating an opinion could be > > >> > >> > > > considered > > >> > >> > > > biased. im not sure what u mean by "It is difficult to > > >> > >> > > > understand the > > >> > >> > > > message being portrayed especially when words are taken back > > >> > >> > > > and > > >> > >> > > > other's opinions are the core basis for new ideas.", so again > > >> > >> > > > i cant > > >> > >> > > > comment...as far as making u think...hey, sorry bout that! > > >> > >> > > > ;-^) > > > >> > >> > > > On Apr 27, 2:24 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > > I will refrain from giving a negative opinion, as that is > > >> > >> > > > > most likely > > >> > >> > > > > what will end up being interpreted. But I too find e's > > >> > >> > > > > comments a bit > > >> > >> > > > > jumbled and out of focus. It is difficult to understand > > >> > >> > > > > the message > > >> > >> > > > > being portrayed especially when words are taken back and > > >> > >> > > > > other's > > >> > >> > > > > opinions are the core basis for new ideas. e try to remain > > >> > >> > > > > focused > > >> > >> > > > > and find non-biased validity in your claims. I do enjoy > > >> > >> > > > > reading > > >> > >> > > > > everyone's comments and find each and every contributor to > > >> > >> > > > > be a worthy > > >> > >> > > > > donor. Your input causes me to think. > > > >> > >> > > > > On Apr 27, 11:00 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > > > Synonym for "wow". Alleged etymology: A way of saying > > >> > >> > > > > > "Jesus!" without > > >> > >> > > > > > being accused of swearing. More often used as a negative > > >> > >> > > > > > exclamation > > >> > >> > > > > > than a positive one. > > > >> > >> > > > > >http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gee%20wiz > > > >> > >> > > > > > Caustic? LOL I'm sure Orn was up all night crying his > > >> > >> > > > > > eyes out! > > >> > >> > > > > > Stop projecting your own interpretation, regardless of > > >> > >> > > > > > the inaccuracy, > > >> > >> > > > > > onto Orn. > > > >> > >> > > > > > 'superficial, > > >> > >> > > > > > frenetic, without depth, simplistic interpretation, > > >> > >> > > > > > mental cache dump, > > >> > >> > > > > > etc.<<< espace > > > >> > >> > > > > > Caustic? Lesson? Teacher? Preach? What? > > > >> > >> > > > > > Again you project your own timidity upon other readers. > > >> > >> > > > > > If you are > > >> > >> > > > > > offended it is your personal choice to feel that way but > > >> > >> > > > > > that in and > > >> > >> > > > > > of itself does not attach new meaning to words very > > >> > >> > > > > > commonly used in > > >> > >> > > > > > Minds Eye, many of which I learned to use from others, > > >> > >> > > > > > including > > >> > >> > > > > > Orn. > > > >> > >> > > > > > I would have to ask other members if you have any clue of > > >> > >> > > > > > what you are > > >> > >> > > > > > saying because I certainly don't think you know what you > > >> > >> > > > > > are talking > > >> > >> > > > > > about. Unless of course I get out my espace dictionary. > > > >> > >> > > > > > On Apr 27, 7:03 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > > > > if the answer is gee whiz, one would then have to ask, > > >> > >> > > > > > > is gee whiz a > > >> > >> > > > > > > short form for jesus? > > > >> > >> > > > > > > i believe u misinterpreted OM's post. i think she was > > >> > >> > > > > > > agreeing with > > >> > >> > > > > > > u. > > > >> > >> > > > > > > just a thought...you might want to consider changing > > >> > >> > > > > > > the terminology > > >> > >> > > > > > > you use to something a bit more pallatable for the > > >> > >> > > > > > > readers of your > > >> > >> > > > > > > responses? you refer to others posts using words such > > >> > >> > > > > > > as 'superficial, > > >> > >> > > > > > > frenetic, without depth, simplistic interpretation, > > >> > >> > > > > > > mental cache dump, > > >> > >> > > > > > > etc. if one is trying to get a point across it is much > > >> > >> > > > > > > better to do so > > >> > >> > > > > > > without attempting to offend the other, because if u > > >> > >> > > > > > > do, even if the > > >> > >> > > > > > > words u are saying make sense, the reader will not have > > >> > >> > > > > > > a good > > >> > >> > > > > > > interpretation of the 'lesson', because they will not > > >> > >> > > > > > > appreciate the > > >> > >> > > > > > > 'teacher'...your 'meaning' doesnt have to be > > >> > >> > > > > > > 'demeaning'. u have some > > >> > >> > > > > > > good thoughts and comments...if they were slightly less > > >> > >> > > > > > > caustic they > > >> > >> > > > > > > might be a bit easier to swallow...again, just an > > >> > >> > > > > > > observation > > > >> > >> > > > > > > On Apr 27, 1:31 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > In your situation there is a huge difference, in that > > >> > >> > > > > > > > the group is not > > >> > >> > > > > > > > local to your community. Actually, I don't really > > >> > >> > > > > > > > see the comparison, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > that would be like me hanging with the Pope and then > > >> > >> > > > > > > > expecting a phone > > >> > >> > > > > > > > call from the Vatican. Still, I would think that at > > >> > >> > > > > > > > least one person > > >> > >> > > > > > > > from the whole should reach out, there is some degree > > >> > >> > > > > > > > of failure there > > >> > >> > > > > > > > on their part. Let me also add that you did not just > > >> > >> > > > > > > > fail to show up > > >> > >> > > > > > > > the next day while recording his speeches which > > >> > >> > > > > > > > would/should trigger a > > >> > >> > > > > > > > concern as to your well being, I would think. > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > Your simplistic interpretation of my approach is > > >> > >> > > > > > > > superficial, without > > >> > >> > > > > > > > depth. Failure to show any concern for someone who > > >> > >> > > > > > > > becomes part of a > > >> > >> > > > > > > > spiritual family in a local community church is a > > >> > >> > > > > > > > reflection of the > > >> > >> > > > > > > > congregates ability to live up to the spiritual > > >> > >> > > > > > > > tenets that they > > >> > >> > > > > > > > purport to espouse. I would expect, after months of > > >> > >> > > > > > > > playing/singing > > >> > >> > > > > > > > for the choir and receiving expressions of gratitude, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > for > > >> > >> > > > > > > > gratuitousness and ability, from attendees that > > >> > >> > > > > > > > someone would ask > > >> > >> > > > > > > > someone else what happened to the player/singer, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > with the reply > > >> > >> > > > > > > > being, I don't know we need to call and see if all is > > >> > >> > > > > > > > well. 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