You are heading for the right direction with the prefixation of your biases. In your terms, of course.
On 28 Apr., 22:08, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > Ornamental has summed it up nicely. I am biased towards a nice cut of > rare Ahi Tuna. Is that a bad thing? Bias carries such a negative > connotation because there have been so many victims of it...but even > then, we don't think of all of them, do we? How many people have you > chosen not to date, because you did not find them attractive? Look, a > multitude of victims of bias! > > Substitute then the word 'preference', and see how that tastes. > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:15 PM, ornamentalmind > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Even though it appears you are asking someone else, I'll chime in > > since I pointed it out... > > The notion of good/bad does not have to enter into it. It can and > > apparently you are doing so. I would posit that this is the case for > > about everything. > > And, taking it a tad further, looking at just the first definition: > > >http://www.onelook.com/?w=bias&ls=a > > > IF one considers having an objective consideration of an issue or > > situation to be important, then one could say that being biased is > > 'bad'...since it prevents such a state. > > > There are common idioms that do give the term the spin you apparently > > have taken on...it is not necessary nor the only way to think/talk/ > > write. In fact, for clarity, one would want to explore much deeper. > > > And, again IF you are talking about USA media when you say > > 'news'....of course one will come up with opinion rather than any > > possiblity of objectivity! That has been the case for a few decades > > now, sadly. I seldom if ever listen to the 'news'...it has degenerated > > into infotainment at best. > > > When you ask about 'ones determination of the validity or truthfulness > > of another persons words, without any previous notion, alliance or > > prejudice..", it sounds like you are quoting from a dictionary, are > > you? Regardless, such a situation is so rare as to be almost never > > found...at least that is how I see it. > > > On Apr 28, 8:58 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > >> then i presume being biased could be considered a good thing? because > >> everbody has opinions. i was under the impression that it referred to > >> a negative or non-objective slant on something, but from what you are > >> indicating, being biased could also be considered a positive thing. is > >> this correct? i mean, i have heard someone saying 'well, im biased, > >> but after all he is my kid'. maybe ive been oversaturated with the way > >> it used on the news! ;-^( ...on the other hand, a simple opinion about > >> something, say ones determination of the validity or truthfulness of > >> another persons words, without any previous notion, alliance or > >> prejudice, imo, could not be considered bias, but just an opinion. > >> what say? > > >> On Apr 28, 9:13 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > Yes! Bias and Opinion are synonyms. :) > > >> > 2009/4/28 e_space <[email protected]>: > > >> > > ok...so everyone that has an opinion is biased? > > >> > > On Apr 27, 10:29 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> "i see...so either u dont have any opinions or your biased...right? " > >> > >> - e-s > > >> > >> No, by definition an opinion is subjective and thus a bias...based > >> > >> upon one's past. > > >> > >> On Apr 27, 5:36 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > >> > i see...so either u dont have any opinions or your biased...right? > > >> > >> > On Apr 27, 5:57 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > >> > > "...unless stating an opinion could be considered > >> > >> > > biased. ..." - e-s > > >> > >> > > Well, yes, you could say that that is the case. In fact, it IS the > >> > >> > > case. > > >> > >> > > On Apr 27, 1:57 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > >> > > > without referrence to what u consider jumbled or out of focus i > >> > >> > > > cannot > >> > >> > > > comment unless its a generalization. i do not feel i have > >> > >> > > > offered a > >> > >> > > > bias on anything, unless stating an opinion could be considered > >> > >> > > > biased. im not sure what u mean by "It is difficult to > >> > >> > > > understand the > >> > >> > > > message being portrayed especially when words are taken back and > >> > >> > > > other's opinions are the core basis for new ideas.", so again i > >> > >> > > > cant > >> > >> > > > comment...as far as making u think...hey, sorry bout that! ;-^) > > >> > >> > > > On Apr 27, 2:24 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > >> > > > > I will refrain from giving a negative opinion, as that is > >> > >> > > > > most likely > >> > >> > > > > what will end up being interpreted. But I too find e's > >> > >> > > > > comments a bit > >> > >> > > > > jumbled and out of focus. It is difficult to understand the > >> > >> > > > > message > >> > >> > > > > being portrayed especially when words are taken back and > >> > >> > > > > other's > >> > >> > > > > opinions are the core basis for new ideas. e try to remain > >> > >> > > > > focused > >> > >> > > > > and find non-biased validity in your claims. I do enjoy > >> > >> > > > > reading > >> > >> > > > > everyone's comments and find each and every contributor to be > >> > >> > > > > a worthy > >> > >> > > > > donor. Your input causes me to think. > > >> > >> > > > > On Apr 27, 11:00 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > >> > > > > > Synonym for "wow". Alleged etymology: A way of saying > >> > >> > > > > > "Jesus!" without > >> > >> > > > > > being accused of swearing. More often used as a negative > >> > >> > > > > > exclamation > >> > >> > > > > > than a positive one. > > >> > >> > > > > >http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gee%20wiz > > >> > >> > > > > > Caustic? LOL I'm sure Orn was up all night crying his > >> > >> > > > > > eyes out! > >> > >> > > > > > Stop projecting your own interpretation, regardless of the > >> > >> > > > > > inaccuracy, > >> > >> > > > > > onto Orn. > > >> > >> > > > > > 'superficial, > >> > >> > > > > > frenetic, without depth, simplistic interpretation, mental > >> > >> > > > > > cache dump, > >> > >> > > > > > etc.<<< espace > > >> > >> > > > > > Caustic? Lesson? Teacher? Preach? What? > > >> > >> > > > > > Again you project your own timidity upon other readers. If > >> > >> > > > > > you are > >> > >> > > > > > offended it is your personal choice to feel that way but > >> > >> > > > > > that in and > >> > >> > > > > > of itself does not attach new meaning to words very > >> > >> > > > > > commonly used in > >> > >> > > > > > Minds Eye, many of which I learned to use from others, > >> > >> > > > > > including > >> > >> > > > > > Orn. > > >> > >> > > > > > I would have to ask other members if you have any clue of > >> > >> > > > > > what you are > >> > >> > > > > > saying because I certainly don't think you know what you > >> > >> > > > > > are talking > >> > >> > > > > > about. Unless of course I get out my espace dictionary. > > >> > >> > > > > > On Apr 27, 7:03 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > >> > > > > > > if the answer is gee whiz, one would then have to ask, is > >> > >> > > > > > > gee whiz a > >> > >> > > > > > > short form for jesus? > > >> > >> > > > > > > i believe u misinterpreted OM's post. i think she was > >> > >> > > > > > > agreeing with > >> > >> > > > > > > u. > > >> > >> > > > > > > just a thought...you might want to consider changing the > >> > >> > > > > > > terminology > >> > >> > > > > > > you use to something a bit more pallatable for the > >> > >> > > > > > > readers of your > >> > >> > > > > > > responses? you refer to others posts using words such as > >> > >> > > > > > > 'superficial, > >> > >> > > > > > > frenetic, without depth, simplistic interpretation, > >> > >> > > > > > > mental cache dump, > >> > >> > > > > > > etc. if one is trying to get a point across it is much > >> > >> > > > > > > better to do so > >> > >> > > > > > > without attempting to offend the other, because if u do, > >> > >> > > > > > > even if the > >> > >> > > > > > > words u are saying make sense, the reader will not have a > >> > >> > > > > > > good > >> > >> > > > > > > interpretation of the 'lesson', because they will not > >> > >> > > > > > > appreciate the > >> > >> > > > > > > 'teacher'...your 'meaning' doesnt have to be 'demeaning'. > >> > >> > > > > > > u have some > >> > >> > > > > > > good thoughts and comments...if they were slightly less > >> > >> > > > > > > caustic they > >> > >> > > > > > > might be a bit easier to swallow...again, just an > >> > >> > > > > > > observation > > >> > >> > > > > > > On Apr 27, 1:31 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > In your situation there is a huge difference, in that > >> > >> > > > > > > > the group is not > >> > >> > > > > > > > local to your community. Actually, I don't really see > >> > >> > > > > > > > the comparison, > >> > >> > > > > > > > that would be like me hanging with the Pope and then > >> > >> > > > > > > > expecting a phone > >> > >> > > > > > > > call from the Vatican. Still, I would think that at > >> > >> > > > > > > > least one person > >> > >> > > > > > > > from the whole should reach out, there is some degree > >> > >> > > > > > > > of failure there > >> > >> > > > > > > > on their part. Let me also add that you did not just > >> > >> > > > > > > > fail to show up > >> > >> > > > > > > > the next day while recording his speeches which > >> > >> > > > > > > > would/should trigger a > >> > >> > > > > > > > concern as to your well being, I would think. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > Your simplistic interpretation of my approach is > >> > >> > > > > > > > superficial, without > >> > >> > > > > > > > depth. Failure to show any concern for someone who > >> > >> > > > > > > > becomes part of a > >> > >> > > > > > > > spiritual family in a local community church is a > >> > >> > > > > > > > reflection of the > >> > >> > > > > > > > congregates ability to live up to the spiritual tenets > >> > >> > > > > > > > that they > >> > >> > > > > > > > purport to espouse. I would expect, after months of > >> > >> > > > > > > > playing/singing > >> > >> > > > > > > > for the choir and receiving expressions of gratitude, > >> > >> > > > > > > > for > >> > >> > > > > > > > gratuitousness and ability, from attendees that someone > >> > >> > > > > > > > would ask > >> > >> > > > > > > > someone else what happened to the player/singer, with > >> > >> > > > > > > > the reply > >> > >> > > > > > > > being, I don't know we need to call and see if all is > >> > >> > > > > > > > well. It is > >> > >> > > > > > > > very simple really, especially when you consider that > >> > >> > > > > > > > the congregation > >> > >> > > > > > > > (not an organization) may only consist of a hundred > >> > >> > > > > > > > members or less. > >> > >> > > > > > > > So your judgment on the matter of my judgment is > >> > >> > > > > > > > incorrect, partially > >> > >> > > > > > > > because I had failed to initially present the related > >> > >> > > > > > > > and relevant > >> > >> > > > > > > > facts. It is years ago now anyway and I haven't any > >> > >> > > > > > > > affiliations nor > > ... > > Erfahren Sie mehr » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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