The bloody concern is not in any way connected to what I was referring
to about Christianity. The rituals of primitive man are of no
importance to here and now.
Here and now, the lie, cleansing of atrocious behavior with magic
words of acceptance, is the devious aspect of Christianity.

peace & Love

On May 4, 8:24 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'd say you have all gone the wrong way on this, if there is such a
> thing.  The blood signifies the spirit of man, the one - the body, our
> individuality, the many.  This is a no brainer, unless you are looking
> to be against something.  Then Christianity is an easy mark.  This is
> the path of right and wrong, can't be against something without them!
>
> On May 4, 7:10 am, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Don, what do you mean Christianity was considered an evil cult in its "early
> > days"; frankly, it still is. The ritualised blood drinking and flesh eating
> > is now mostly symbolic (the Holy Sacrament, Eucharist, etc), but the
> > sinister meaning cannot be denied: Yahweh is a blood god, who perpetrated
> > countless murders and genocide and -- tellingly -- was only appeased by the
> > horrific torture and bloody murder of his own son.
>
> > Every Sunday -- Seventh Day Adventist aside, natch -- Christians everywhere
> > indulge in blood rites.
>
> > Jesus actually said (echoing Duotoronomy): "*Most assuredly, I say to you,
> > unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no
> > life in you. Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and
> > I will raise him up at the last day. For My flesh is food indeed, and My
> > blood is drink indeed. He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in
> > Me, and I in him. As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the
> > Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me." *(John 6:53-57)
>
> > He was speaking symbollically though, wasn't he? However, the Eucharist
> > throws into serious question how literal the metaphor behind Jesus' words
> > should be taken. On the one hand Christians symbollically eat his flesh and
> > drink his blood, but on the other claim a mere metaphor! Which is right?
>
> > Still, drinking the blood of Jesus the Magic Jew is better than all that cow
> > and goat blood:
>
> > *"For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling
> > the unclean, sanctifies for the purifying of the flesh, how much more shall
> > the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without
> > spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living
> > God?" *(Hebrews 9:13-14)
>
> > The Bible is all the damning evidence that is needed of Christianity's deep
> > evilness, immorality, and blood perversions. The Dead Sea Scrolls, Book of
> > Enoch, and other apocrypha don't offer anything particularly different to
> > the Torah or New Testament.
>
> > In Enoch, there are some passages on the Nephilim -- who are only mentioned
> > in passing in the Bible -- who certainly were blood drinkers and encouraged
> > their ensorcelled followers to do likewise.
>
> > In the Book of Noah -- of which we only have a fragment -- Yahweh himself is
> > also described by Enoch as a blood drinker, getting "drunk" on the blood of
> > sinners (Enoch 16:15). Later, he even rejoices in his bloody murder of
> > humans: "When you fall, he will not show you mercy; but your Creator will
> > rejoice in your destruction." (Enoch 93:10).
>
> > In my experience, most Christians' understanding of their ritualised blood
> > drinking is superficial at best.
>
> > Ian
>
> > 2009/5/4 Don Johnson <[email protected]>
>
> > > I think Christianity is the only religion that actually had any
> > > devious element in its creation. The people Jesus was most disgusted
> > > with were the ones who created the religion that in no way represents
> > > the man as he was.  -Tinker
>
> > > I have heard this as well.  Not sure where, possibly History Chanel.
> > > I remember being shocked hearing Christianity was considered an evil
> > > cult in it's early days.  Underground secret rituals of drinking blood
> > > and eating flesh certainly sound icky.  Can someone recommend a good
> > > source on this history?  Unfortunately I don't have access to the
> > > Vatican for what I'm sure would be very interesting reading(if I could
> > > read Hebrew, Arabic, Greek, etc.-which I can't)  Translations of the
> > > Dead Sea Scrolls perhaps?  The pesharim has been mentioned but what
> > > would be the most entertaining translation?
>
> > > A Christian would recommend the Bible, of course, but I'm looking for
> > > something less mythical and more political and sociological.  Any
> > > suggestions?
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