I was thinking today about Hurricane Katrina in the US and how, prior to this hurricane, the government aid response was minimal at best, doling out money to agencies and individuals afterward. This hurricane changed everything because for the first time, the feds made a concerted effort to evacuate, house temporarily and give direct aid to the people effected that could not help themselves. This changed the collective mentality of the country how now expects the federal government to take care of everything in the event of a natural disaster in the US. This is fascinating to me, not only because of the shift in collective mentality, but because I personally knew many of the facility managers who provided temporary housing during this disaster. Their lives were forever changed from the trauma and I can say that ever one year after, their affect was that of a person stunned. I played a small part in the looking back and drafting a new emergency response procedure, something that I am sure will go on after each disaster. But I think it is significant that prior to this, the red cross did what they could, many more lives were lost,
On May 1, 3:44 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > I heard that EGO was the acronym for Easing God Out. > > It seems to me that every time I see egos involved what ever is involved > seldom riases above mediocrity. > Allan > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > In classical terms, ego is a form of " pure consciousness." > > > You can see the ego as the " form " or as " pure consciousness." As > > the former, being subject to change and an end, ego is said to be non > > - existent. As the latter, it the Supreme Reality ... Brahman as the > > Advaiti would say. > > > Decades ago, when I was into rigorous practice of spiritual science, I > > was absolutely ' bouyed up ' by Shankaracharya's declaration ( in a > > context, in Brihadaranya Upanishad ) : This very ego is Brahman. > > There was no way I could understand it then, but the liberating > > courage it filled me with I can still recall ! > > > On May 1, 1:09 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Vam, while one can see traces/results of ego, in fact, it has no > > > inherent existence of it's own. Just ask the scientists here! > > > > From a different direction, what is at the very base of ego?...surely > > > not ego itself... > > > > and, ego is but a mistaken view...when clarified, it melts away...even > > > though 'it' wasn't here anyway. > > > > On Apr 29, 8:26 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > OM, how do you declare the " ego " to be non - existent when, in fact, > > > > you were precisely that even as you penned the post ? ! > > > > > On Apr 29, 7:57 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > "...Perhaps there is some intelligent energy (needs defining) that > > > > > causes > > > > > humanity to mentally separate, causing a disconnect of humanity with > > > > > cosmos, the one we are talking about creating..." - SD > > > > > > In fact, this is the nonexistent thing called ego... > > > > > > On Apr 28, 7:51 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I think we are on the same track! > > > > > > To facilitate change in collective subconscious to alter the > > > > > > collective consciousness is something that must happen in quantum > > > > > > terms, as you say, beyond the realm of physical awareness. The > > only > > > > > > way I would think it could happen is if all of humanity focused > > > > > > together, expending enough mental energy to influence cosmic > > change, > > > > > > the energy that becomes that super mind. > > > > > > Perhaps there is some intelligent energy (needs defining) that > > causes > > > > > > humanity to mentally separate, causing a disconnect of humanity > > with > > > > > > cosmos, the one we are talking about creating. This separation is > > at > > > > > > the core of all the problems, the chaos and the overall inability > > to > > > > > > peacefully coexist and the whole of humanity's recognition of it is > > > > > > crucial to the viability of the collective consciousness, > > > > > > subconsciousness and the collective mentality. > > > > > > > On Apr 28, 4:35 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I can't say exactly how it will be done. > > > > > > > This (from my post above) is the idea I'm working with. > > > > > > > > "The key we are looking for is in the "collective" mentality/ > > > > > > > conscious/ > > > > > > > intelligence/subconscious/mind. > > > > > > > We have a common 'thing' in our minds." > > > > > > > > Or a 'common mind', that is above and beyond the self conscious > > mind > > > > > > > of physical awareness, which we have access to, or a connection > > with. > > > > > > > I'm thinking there is a way to make a connection to bring that > > 'super > > > > > > > mind' forward in our conscious mind. > > > > > > > If we can make the connection in a 'critical mass', the 'super > > mind' > > > > > > > would infect the 'apparently' evil with a major epiphany and > > cause > > > > > > > them to change their ways. > > > > > > > > re: "I think we need something more than the high idea. "...any > > > > > > > suggestions? > > > > > > > > Again, I can't actually say how it will be done. I do have a > > pretty > > > > > > > sure idea of what will Not work. > > > > > > > I've been working on a post, The Wrong Way, that has grown from > > the > > > > > > > discussion. I think it's done and I'll post it later. > > > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > > On Apr 28, 5:56 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > please explain how you expect to accomplish the following > > because this > > > > > > > > is the part of your proposal that i cannot envision..."We don't > > have > > > > > > > > to get through to them. The Collective Mentality we're talking > > about > > > > > > > > establishing 'will' get through to them. We are not talking > > about > > > > > > > > selling a bunch of dogma, we are talking about establishing a > > link in > > > > > > > > our minds that will bring the power of our collective > > intelligence > > > > > > > > (God?) to bear on the actions of mankind." ... > > > > > > > > > On Apr 27, 10:39 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rosey, > > > > > > > > > I understand that the people you refer to as purely evil are > > > > > > > > > despicable human beings. > > > > > > > > > But they are human beings, and they are what they are because > > of the > > > > > > > > > values (or lack of) they have acquired in their Life. > > > > > > > > > I just have an aversion to the word and idea of 'evil' > > because it > > > > > > > > > excuses the human from responsibility. > > > > > > > > > Psycho/sociopath is as close as a human gets to the idea of > > evil. > > > > > > > > > > We don't have to get through to them. The Collective > > Mentality we're > > > > > > > > > talking about establishing 'will' get through to them. > > > > > > > > > We are not talking about selling a bunch of dogma, we are > > talking > > > > > > > > > about establishing a link in our minds that will bring the > > power of > > > > > > > > > our collective intelligence (God?) to bear on the actions of > > mankind. > > > > > > > > > > Slip said, "I think one of the key factors in the collective > > mentality > > > > > > > > > obstacle is > > > > > > > > > the lack of insight into "post collective mentality". > > > > > > > > > What I think he's saying is you are not looking at the > > possibility. > > > > > > > > > Like a scientist has a vision or object in his mind first, > > then begins > > > > > > > > > to figure ways to make it real. Where would we be today if > > all the > > > > > > > > > scientist had your attitude of "Oh we could never do that". > > > > > > > > > > We are looking to bring about an evolutionary leap for > > mankind. Please > > > > > > > > > release your primitive view of the human and look to the > > possibility > > > > > > > > > of overcoming the base mentality and evolving to a truly > > spiritual > > > > > > > > > people. > > > > > > > > > Imagine utopia, think from that point of view. What is > > necessary to > > > > > > > > > establish unity? > > > > > > > > > > And it needs to happen soon, cause we don't want slip to go > > back to > > > > > > > > > Saturn :-) > > > > > > > > > He wouldn't be happy without morning glories. > > > > > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 27, 9:03 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Tinker, I get what you're saying, but when I mention "pure > > evil" I am > > > > > > > > > > referring to the leaders of countries. Few of them, very > > few, would > > > > > > > > > > agree with a collective mentality altogether. The problem > > is getting > > > > > > > > > > through to them. Yes we the plebians, patrons, citizens... > > are > > > > > > > > > > starving for peace and humanity, but who is listening to > > us? As long > > > > > > > > > > as we have leaders that strive on maintaining power who are > > unable to > > > > > > > > > > equally share in thoughts, borders and resources, we are > > going to have > > > > > > > > > > followers that will believe in them. That's the truth. > > War > > > > > > > > > > unfortunately reigns over sound mind. It's a paranoid > > caveman > > > > > > > > > > instinct which evolution has yet to mutate. Am I for > > collective > > > > > > > > > > mentality? 100%, do I believe it will actualize anytime > > soon, no. > > > > > > > > > > It's going to take time. > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 5:13 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Rosey, > > > > > > > > > > > Your thinking that allows for someone to be "pure evil" > > is the sort of > > > > > > > > > > > stuff that is used to justify war. There is fear driven > > greed that > > > > > > > > > > > would apparently be the pure evil that you would > > substantiate. But, it > > > > > > > > > > > is 'purely' fear driven greed. > > > > > > > > > > > > The people of the world do not cater to war. We are > > subjected to war > > > > > > > > > > > by the fear driven greedy who have taken control of our > > government. > > > > > > > > > > > > What mother nature does is just fine. If we establish the > > collective > > > > > > > > > > > mentality we will come more in line with mother nature's > > natural order > > > > > > > > > > > and maybe even have a bit of influence :-) For sure we > > would handle > > > > > > > > > > > disasters a lot better. > > > > > > > > > > > > The ideas for a Collective Mentality have never made any > > significant > > > > > > > > > > > progress across barriers of Language and Culture. > > > > > > > > > > > So we should give up trying to find the way to make a > > world wide > > > > > > > > > > > collective mentality? > > > > > > > > > > > > Religions support the fatalistic prognosis. It would not > > give them > > > > > > > > > > > much authority if they didn't teach "there's nothing we > > can > > > > > > > > > > > do" (instill apathy) except follow their dogma. > > > > > > > > > > > > A code of rules will never will never establish a > > collective > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
