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On May 5, 9:38 am, nupur rana <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi! you guys sound intelligent.
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:03 PM, ornamentalmind
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Perhaps I'm missing something here...but I seem to remember, long
> > before those of us in the USA lost our National Guard to the killing
> > fields of Iraq, that said gardspeople were our first line of help in
> > big emergencies...like floods, storms, looting....etc.
>
> > On May 5, 7:30 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > That was my point. It was the first time the government ever tried to
> > > respond. Prior to that, the Red Cross was on their own.
> > > Collectively, instead of looking at the massive and immediate effort,
> > > we expect that the government take care of it with complete
> > > efficiency. That first effort was indeed chaotic, no doubt. But it
> > > wasn't until that first effort was made, that we began to expect the
> > > anything from the government at all other than funding for clean up
> > > efforts. Collectively, Americans have shifted into thinking that the
> > > government should take care of it all...a real example in a shift in
> > > collective mentality. I can't explain it or defend it, but I do see
> > > it.
>
> > > On May 5, 3:53 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I hope it has changed Molly, but I think that at best it was a poor
> > response
> > > > by the Bush Admin, I know I got a email from a friend asking if his
> > church
> > > > could set up several trailers on my land.. ,, which was okay. What
> > actually
> > > > occurred I have no idea other than the news.. But the poor federal
> > response
> > > > was directly due to the policy of the republican party to dismantal
> > the
> > > > government. and the G. weasel Bush's favoritism policy..
>
> > > > As an american I feel the response was a disgrace.
>
> > > > I am glad the policies have and are changing... and with you involved I
> > am
> > > > sure they will greatly improve.. if I can be of asistance.. you know
> > the
> > > > email address.
>
> > > > Allan
>
> > > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > I was thinking today about Hurricane Katrina in the US and how, prior
> > > > > to this hurricane, the government aid response was minimal at best,
> > > > > doling out money to agencies and individuals afterward. This
> > > > > hurricane changed everything because for the first time, the feds
> > made
> > > > > a concerted effort to evacuate, house temporarily and give direct aid
> > > > > to the people effected that could not help themselves. This changed
> > > > > the collective mentality of the country how now expects the federal
> > > > > government to take care of everything in the event of a natural
> > > > > disaster in the US. This is fascinating to me, not only because of
> > > > > the shift in collective mentality, but because I personally knew many
> > > > > of the facility managers who provided temporary housing during this
> > > > > disaster. Their lives were forever changed from the trauma and I can
> > > > > say that ever one year after, their affect was that of a person
> > > > > stunned. I played a small part in the looking back and drafting a
> > new
> > > > > emergency response procedure, something that I am sure will go on
> > > > > after each disaster. But I think it is significant that prior to
> > > > > this, the red cross did what they could, many more lives were lost,
>
> > > > > On May 1, 3:44 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > I heard that EGO was the acronym for Easing God Out.
>
> > > > > > It seems to me that every time I see egos involved what ever is
> > involved
> > > > > > seldom riases above mediocrity.
> > > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Vamadevananda <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > In classical terms, ego is a form of " pure consciousness."
>
> > > > > > > You can see the ego as the " form " or as " pure consciousness."
> > As
> > > > > > > the former, being subject to change and an end, ego is said to be
> > non
> > > > > > > - existent. As the latter, it the Supreme Reality ... Brahman as
> > the
> > > > > > > Advaiti would say.
>
> > > > > > > Decades ago, when I was into rigorous practice of spiritual
> > science, I
> > > > > > > was absolutely ' bouyed up ' by Shankaracharya's declaration ( in
> > a
> > > > > > > context, in Brihadaranya Upanishad ) : This very ego is Brahman.
> > > > > > > There was no way I could understand it then, but the liberating
> > > > > > > courage it filled me with I can still recall !
>
> > > > > > > On May 1, 1:09 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Vam, while one can see traces/results of ego, in fact, it has
> > no
> > > > > > > > inherent existence of it's own. Just ask the scientists here!
>
> > > > > > > > From a different direction, what is at the very base of
> > ego?...surely
> > > > > > > > not ego itself...
>
> > > > > > > > and, ego is but a mistaken view...when clarified, it melts
> > > > > away...even
> > > > > > > > though 'it' wasn't here anyway.
>
> > > > > > > > On Apr 29, 8:26 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > OM, how do you declare the " ego " to be non - existent when,
> > in
> > > > > fact,
> > > > > > > > > you were precisely that even as you penned the post ? !
>
> > > > > > > > > On Apr 29, 7:57 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]
>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > "...Perhaps there is some intelligent energy (needs
> > defining)
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > causes
> > > > > > > > > > humanity to mentally separate, causing a disconnect of
> > humanity
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > cosmos, the one we are talking about creating..." - SD
>
> > > > > > > > > > In fact, this is the nonexistent thing called ego...
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Apr 28, 7:51 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I think we are on the same track!
> > > > > > > > > > > To facilitate change in collective subconscious to alter
> > the
> > > > > > > > > > > collective consciousness is something that must happen in
> > > > > quantum
> > > > > > > > > > > terms, as you say, beyond the realm of physical
> > awareness. The
> > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > > > way I would think it could happen is if all of humanity
> > focused
> > > > > > > > > > > together, expending enough mental energy to influence
> > cosmic
> > > > > > > change,
> > > > > > > > > > > the energy that becomes that super mind.
> > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps there is some intelligent energy (needs defining)
> > that
> > > > > > > causes
> > > > > > > > > > > humanity to mentally separate, causing a disconnect of
> > humanity
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > cosmos, the one we are talking about creating. This
> > separation
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > the core of all the problems, the chaos and the overall
> > > > > inability
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > peacefully coexist and the whole of humanity's
> > recognition of
> > > > > it is
> > > > > > > > > > > crucial to the viability of the collective consciousness,
> > > > > > > > > > > subconsciousness and the collective mentality.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 28, 4:35 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I can't say exactly how it will be done.
> > > > > > > > > > > > This (from my post above) is the idea I'm working with.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > "The key we are looking for is in the "collective"
> > mentality/
> > > > > > > > > > > > conscious/
> > > > > > > > > > > > intelligence/subconscious/mind.
> > > > > > > > > > > > We have a common 'thing' in our minds."
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Or a 'common mind', that is above and beyond the self
> > > > > conscious
> > > > > > > mind
> > > > > > > > > > > > of physical awareness, which we have access to, or a
> > > > > connection
> > > > > > > with.
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm thinking there is a way to make a connection to
> > bring
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > 'super
> > > > > > > > > > > > mind' forward in our conscious mind.
> > > > > > > > > > > > If we can make the connection in a 'critical mass', the
> > > > > 'super
> > > > > > > mind'
> > > > > > > > > > > > would infect the 'apparently' evil with a major
> > epiphany and
> > > > > > > cause
> > > > > > > > > > > > them to change their ways.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > re: "I think we need something more than the high idea.
> > > > > "...any
> > > > > > > > > > > > suggestions?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Again, I can't actually say how it will be done. I do
> > have a
> > > > > > > pretty
> > > > > > > > > > > > sure idea of what will Not work.
> > > > > > > > > > > > I've been working on a post, The Wrong Way, that has
> > grown
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > discussion. I think it's done and I'll post it later.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 28, 5:56 am, e_space <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > please explain how you expect to accomplish the
> > following
> > > > > > > because this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is the part of your proposal that i cannot
> > envision..."We
> > > > > don't
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to get through to them. The Collective Mentality
> > we're
> > > > > talking
> > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > establishing 'will' get through to them. We are not
> > talking
> > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > selling a bunch of dogma, we are talking about
> > establishing
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > link in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > our minds that will bring the power of our collective
> > > > > > > intelligence
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (God?) to bear on the actions of mankind." ...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 27, 10:39 pm, Tinker <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rosey,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand that the people you refer
>
> ...
>
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