Perhaps I'm missing something here...but I seem to remember, long before those of us in the USA lost our National Guard to the killing fields of Iraq, that said gardspeople were our first line of help in big emergencies...like floods, storms, looting....etc.
On May 5, 7:30 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > That was my point. It was the first time the government ever tried to > respond. Prior to that, the Red Cross was on their own. > Collectively, instead of looking at the massive and immediate effort, > we expect that the government take care of it with complete > efficiency. That first effort was indeed chaotic, no doubt. But it > wasn't until that first effort was made, that we began to expect the > anything from the government at all other than funding for clean up > efforts. Collectively, Americans have shifted into thinking that the > government should take care of it all...a real example in a shift in > collective mentality. I can't explain it or defend it, but I do see > it. > > On May 5, 3:53 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I hope it has changed Molly, but I think that at best it was a poor response > > by the Bush Admin, I know I got a email from a friend asking if his church > > could set up several trailers on my land.. ,, which was okay. What actually > > occurred I have no idea other than the news.. But the poor federal response > > was directly due to the policy of the republican party to dismantal the > > government. and the G. weasel Bush's favoritism policy.. > > > As an american I feel the response was a disgrace. > > > I am glad the policies have and are changing... and with you involved I am > > sure they will greatly improve.. if I can be of asistance.. you know the > > email address. > > > Allan > > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I was thinking today about Hurricane Katrina in the US and how, prior > > > to this hurricane, the government aid response was minimal at best, > > > doling out money to agencies and individuals afterward. This > > > hurricane changed everything because for the first time, the feds made > > > a concerted effort to evacuate, house temporarily and give direct aid > > > to the people effected that could not help themselves. This changed > > > the collective mentality of the country how now expects the federal > > > government to take care of everything in the event of a natural > > > disaster in the US. This is fascinating to me, not only because of > > > the shift in collective mentality, but because I personally knew many > > > of the facility managers who provided temporary housing during this > > > disaster. Their lives were forever changed from the trauma and I can > > > say that ever one year after, their affect was that of a person > > > stunned. I played a small part in the looking back and drafting a new > > > emergency response procedure, something that I am sure will go on > > > after each disaster. But I think it is significant that prior to > > > this, the red cross did what they could, many more lives were lost, > > > > On May 1, 3:44 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I heard that EGO was the acronym for Easing God Out. > > > > > It seems to me that every time I see egos involved what ever is involved > > > > seldom riases above mediocrity. > > > > Allan > > > > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > In classical terms, ego is a form of " pure consciousness." > > > > > > You can see the ego as the " form " or as " pure consciousness." As > > > > > the former, being subject to change and an end, ego is said to be non > > > > > - existent. As the latter, it the Supreme Reality ... Brahman as the > > > > > Advaiti would say. > > > > > > Decades ago, when I was into rigorous practice of spiritual science, I > > > > > was absolutely ' bouyed up ' by Shankaracharya's declaration ( in a > > > > > context, in Brihadaranya Upanishad ) : This very ego is Brahman. > > > > > There was no way I could understand it then, but the liberating > > > > > courage it filled me with I can still recall ! > > > > > > On May 1, 1:09 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Vam, while one can see traces/results of ego, in fact, it has no > > > > > > inherent existence of it's own. Just ask the scientists here! > > > > > > > From a different direction, what is at the very base of > > > > > > ego?...surely > > > > > > not ego itself... > > > > > > > and, ego is but a mistaken view...when clarified, it melts > > > away...even > > > > > > though 'it' wasn't here anyway. > > > > > > > On Apr 29, 8:26 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > OM, how do you declare the " ego " to be non - existent when, in > > > fact, > > > > > > > you were precisely that even as you penned the post ? ! > > > > > > > > On Apr 29, 7:57 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > "...Perhaps there is some intelligent energy (needs defining) > > > that > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > humanity to mentally separate, causing a disconnect of humanity > > > with > > > > > > > > cosmos, the one we are talking about creating..." - SD > > > > > > > > > In fact, this is the nonexistent thing called ego... > > > > > > > > > On Apr 28, 7:51 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I think we are on the same track! > > > > > > > > > To facilitate change in collective subconscious to alter the > > > > > > > > > collective consciousness is something that must happen in > > > quantum > > > > > > > > > terms, as you say, beyond the realm of physical awareness. > > > > > > > > > The > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > way I would think it could happen is if all of humanity > > > > > > > > > focused > > > > > > > > > together, expending enough mental energy to influence cosmic > > > > > change, > > > > > > > > > the energy that becomes that super mind. > > > > > > > > > Perhaps there is some intelligent energy (needs defining) that > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > humanity to mentally separate, causing a disconnect of > > > > > > > > > humanity > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > cosmos, the one we are talking about creating. This > > > > > > > > > separation > > > is > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > the core of all the problems, the chaos and the overall > > > inability > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > peacefully coexist and the whole of humanity's recognition of > > > it is > > > > > > > > > crucial to the viability of the collective consciousness, > > > > > > > > > subconsciousness and the collective mentality. > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 28, 4:35 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I can't say exactly how it will be done. > > > > > > > > > > This (from my post above) is the idea I'm working with. > > > > > > > > > > > "The key we are looking for is in the "collective" > > > > > > > > > > mentality/ > > > > > > > > > > conscious/ > > > > > > > > > > intelligence/subconscious/mind. > > > > > > > > > > We have a common 'thing' in our minds." > > > > > > > > > > > Or a 'common mind', that is above and beyond the self > > > conscious > > > > > mind > > > > > > > > > > of physical awareness, which we have access to, or a > > > connection > > > > > with. > > > > > > > > > > I'm thinking there is a way to make a connection to bring > > > that > > > > > 'super > > > > > > > > > > mind' forward in our conscious mind. > > > > > > > > > > If we can make the connection in a 'critical mass', the > > > 'super > > > > > mind' > > > > > > > > > > would infect the 'apparently' evil with a major epiphany and > > > > > cause > > > > > > > > > > them to change their ways. > > > > > > > > > > > re: "I think we need something more than the high idea. > > > "...any > > > > > > > > > > suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > > Again, I can't actually say how it will be done. I do have a > > > > > pretty > > > > > > > > > > sure idea of what will Not work. > > > > > > > > > > I've been working on a post, The Wrong Way, that has grown > > > from > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > discussion. I think it's done and I'll post it later. > > > > > > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 28, 5:56 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > please explain how you expect to accomplish the following > > > > > because this > > > > > > > > > > > is the part of your proposal that i cannot envision..."We > > > don't > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > to get through to them. The Collective Mentality we're > > > talking > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > establishing 'will' get through to them. We are not > > > > > > > > > > > talking > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > selling a bunch of dogma, we are talking about > > > > > > > > > > > establishing > > > a > > > > > link in > > > > > > > > > > > our minds that will bring the power of our collective > > > > > intelligence > > > > > > > > > > > (God?) to bear on the actions of mankind." ... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 27, 10:39 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rosey, > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand that the people you refer to as purely evil > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > despicable human beings. > > > > > > > > > > > > But they are human beings, and they are what they are > > > because > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > > > > > values (or lack of) they have acquired in their Life. > > > > > > > > > > > > I just have an aversion to the word and idea of 'evil' > > > > > because it > > > > > > > > > > > > excuses the human from responsibility. > > > > > > > > > > > > Psycho/sociopath is as close as a human gets to the idea > > > of > > > > > evil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > We don't have to get through to them. The Collective > > > > > Mentality we're > > > > > > > > > > > > talking about establishing 'will' get through to them. > > > > > > > > > > > > We are not talking about selling a bunch of dogma, we > > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > talking > > > > > > > > > > > > about establishing a link in our minds that will bring > > > the > > > > > power of > > > > > > > > > > > > our collective intelligence (God?) to bear on the > > > > > > > > > > > > actions > > > of > > > > > mankind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Slip said, "I think one of the key factors in the > > > collective > > > > > mentality > > > > > > > > > > > > obstacle is > > > > > > > > > > > > the lack of insight into "post collective mentality". > > > > > > > > > > > > What I think he's saying is you are- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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