Well, think about life on earth before man existed. Dinosaurs eating
mammals, beings born with birth defects, and so forth. No moral evil
was possible then. But physical? Understood as a deprivation of
perfection due a being, surely there was physical evil.

On Jun 27, 5:06 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't know that we could be certain of that because it has not been
> established whether or not any other than human species have moral
> value and rational ability.  "IF" is always a big word!
>
> On Jun 27, 6:44 pm, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > In a world without rational agents no moral evil would happen. But
> > there could be physical evil without man. If evil is understood as the
> > privation of some perfection due a being, than any sickness, accident
> > or death would be physical evil, even if not willed by a personal
> > being.
>
> > In fact I suppose there must have been such physical evil, before man
> > was.
>
> > On Jun 24, 11:26 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > If there were no humans on the planet would evil exist?
>
> > > Is it evil that the cat should torment and kill the mouse and then
> > > walk away?
>
> > > Re enter humanity and examine the BTK killer.
>
> > > The subjectivity of evil.
>
> > > Is it simple?
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