" ...  it does have bit of demonstrative value."

Precisely what I felt like commending you for. Of course, it all works
only with sincerity in the backdrop.


On Jun 28, 7:15 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, so this is where we sort out what Don is querying.  I insult then
> apologize, why?  Is it because I want to make myself feel better, make
> Don feel better or to simply brush it under the carpet as if it never
> happened.   The insult remains regardless of the attempt to retract it
> via the apology.  However, I may be admitting that I was in error to
> inflict such an insult in the first place rendering the insult without
> a viable foundation.  My post was of course intended humor but it does
> have bit of demonstrative value.
> If I forget a birthday and apologize it still reflects the fact that
> the birthday was not as important as my personal agenda.  Does the
> apology in most cases serve as a recognition of a personal flaw?  The
> recipient may or may not accept an apology depending upon the
> understanding of the issuer's intent, was it sincere or mere
> platitudinous?  I think at this point we have to categorize apologies
> as in the lapse of memory apology, the post insult apology, political
> apology, infidelity, criminal etc.  One most distinct apology would be
> that of apologizing to ourselves, the personal apology, recognition of
> a slight against one's self.
>
> On Jun 28, 4:42 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yes, Slip, you succeeded admirably ! In act, not " words."
>
> > On Jun 28, 5:23 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > That's ridiculous you jackass Oops! I'm sorry Don, I apologize, I
> > > didn't realize I was still online! Honest ;-)
>
> > > On Jun 27, 3:08 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I never have understood the request for an apology.  Is it the
> > > > embarrassment this brings to the apologizer we are after or do we
> > > > really expect to feel better ourselves?  I feel it's more likely the
> > > > person's ulterior motive is to gain tort advantage.  Correct me if I'm
> > > > wrong Gruff, but in legalize isn't an apology akin to an admission of
> > > > guilt or at least responsibility for a wrongdoing?  It's a good way to
> > > > get sued.
>
> > > > When someone I love or respect is angry with me it's usually due to a
> > > > misunderstanding.  Things get said or done by one or the other of us
> > > > and regret can follow.  I neither want nor expect an apology.  You
> > > > can't take "sorry" to the bank.  What I try to do when I feel bad
> > > > about how I've treated someone is DO something, not say something.
> > > > Talk is cheap.  I pay my debts in action, not words.(I'm running out
> > > > of cliches)
>
> > > > In researching this topic on the internet earlier I ran across Plato's
> > > > Apology.  Which of course is really no apology at all but more of an
> > > > accusation.  In retrospect, looking back on all the times I've given
> > > > insincere apologies(these are legion and expected) I did the same
> > > > thing.  If not out loud then certainly in my head and with my
> > > > expression.  Deception has never been my strong suit.
>
> > > > Does an apology mean anything to you and if so, why?  Help me
> > > > understand why this is so important to some people.- Hide quoted text -
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