Or without ribbons. This has been a long practice and often artificial cementing of social bonds. It can get crazy all on its own besides sometimes feeling like a bribe or dues. I must admit to having some intense feelings about this subject as it was often forced- am thinking of cliques, in particular. Generous to a fault...//Have liked to copy some South American habit I once heard- if someone compliments an article of yours, give it to them immediately.//The other class of gifts are invisible and you might trust that they will be honored- but there's no guarantee.
On Jun 28, 11:21�pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > Gifts are good, I like gifts, what's wrong with gifts? �Integrity does > not have to be lost upon the receipt of a gift. �A gift should not be > preconceived as a bribe. � The corrupted have made it so because they > took gifts in exchange for favor but this does not set a standard. �We > continually diminish our quality of life on the basis of those that > are unethical, why let them ruin it for the rest of us? �Give and > Receive without strings! > > On Jun 28, 10:56�pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > accepting business gifts should be > > > > totally unacceptable behavior, both by the giver and the receiver. -iam > > > I agree only in the public sector. �I work for the State so pretty > > much the same thing applies to me. �While people still accept tickets > > to sporting events and lunches and cases of booze on the holidays and > > complimentary fishing/hunting trips; it really is graft and shouldn't > > be done. �However, in the private sector this is often how things are > > done. �It's how the service provider buys access. �Tax money isn't > > used to pay for the services so I don't have a problem with it. �If > > large corporations didn't use this technique to gain access to foreign > > potential customers we would never get their business. > > > I commend your wife on her integrity. �It's a rare trait. > > > dj > > > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 8:00 AM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> wrote: > > > Chomsky has my vote along with slipsky of course. > > > > Well the Palestinian people elected one party� and the US and Israel would > > > only support the losers. Radical changes are going to need to be made,,� > > > but > > > There is the lingering doubt that the will is there. I am hoping for > > > health > > > care,� but as long as the politicians are exempt from the bribery laws it > > > will never happen. > > > > I am looking at the difference in countries.� My wife is the officer in > > > charge of quality control for the fire department.. and she was offered > > > tickets for her and me to a polo match free. Well we had to turn them down > > > and make a report of it. It has to do with honesty in government. > > > > The truth is I am glad to see that there are people watching and much more > > > of it needs to occur, every where ,, accepting business gifts should be > > > totally unacceptable behavior, both by the giver and the receiver. > > > Allan > > > > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > >> Here is Noam Chomsky's take on it: > > > >>http://books.google.com/books?id=yDhGoR6yU8AC&dq=Noam+Chomsky+anarchy... > > > >> On Jun 27, 4:27�pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > Collective anger is interesting . It leaves me wondering who is > > >> > controlling > > >> > it. In Red Handed discussion �there is tremendous violence demonstrated > > >> > and > > >> > used for control. As for the people being angry. could they be > > >> > frustrated, > > >> > with supposed religious leadership using violence and fear to control, > > >> > it > > >> > would seem to be more frustration than anger. > > > >> > To me it seems in the majority of people have a deep seated need to > > >> > believe > > >> > in something greater than them selves. looking at Iran, I can not help > > >> > but > > >> > wonder what is really going on. > > >> > Allan > > > >> > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > > >> > wrote: > > > >> > > This is a very nice examination of the emotion contained in the > > >> > > anarchy that ensues as a result of suppression, Vam. �It is > > >> > > fascinating (and horrifying) to watch the collective expression of > > >> > > anger in anarchy. > > > >> > > I think that anger, and its primary emotion fear, are ego based > > >> > > emotions. �If we are witnessing ourselves expressing less and less > > >> > > anger, it is probably because we are not primarily centered in our > > >> > > ego. �Ego based desire - what I want - and its frustration is often > > >> > > the cause, and if expressed without consideration of others, can be > > >> > > destructive. �Ego based anger can also be expressed in consideration > > >> > > of others, and the outcome is usually more palatable for all > > >> > > involved. > > > >> > > If our view looks beyond our ego, includes the broader perspectives > > >> > > of > > >> > > self as other and absolute truth in spirit, the integrated expression > > >> > > of anger simply becomes I am not and I am. Here is where anger of > > >> > > others becomes a mirror to shadow self, and anger arising in self can > > >> > > be witnessed in patterns that have a more soulful revelation of who I > > >> > > am. > > > >> > > �Beyond that, there is only love and I am. > > > > -- > > > ( > > > �) > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
