Gifts can also be a way of saying good-bye. Interesting subject.
On Jun 28, 11:21�pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> Gifts are good, I like gifts, what's wrong with gifts? �Integrity does
> not have to be lost upon the receipt of a gift. �A gift should not be
> preconceived as a bribe. � The corrupted have made it so because they
> took gifts in exchange for favor but this does not set a standard. �We
> continually diminish our quality of life on the basis of those that
> are unethical, why let them ruin it for the rest of us? �Give and
> Receive without strings!
>
> On Jun 28, 10:56�pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > accepting business gifts should be
>
> > > totally unacceptable behavior, both by the giver and the receiver. -iam
>
> > I agree only in the public sector. �I work for the State so pretty
> > much the same thing applies to me. �While people still accept tickets
> > to sporting events and lunches and cases of booze on the holidays and
> > complimentary fishing/hunting trips; it really is graft and shouldn't
> > be done. �However, in the private sector this is often how things are
> > done. �It's how the service provider buys access. �Tax money isn't
> > used to pay for the services so I don't have a problem with it. �If
> > large corporations didn't use this technique to gain access to foreign
> > potential customers we would never get their business.
>
> > I commend your wife on her integrity. �It's a rare trait.
>
> > dj
>
> > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 8:00 AM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Chomsky has my vote along with slipsky of course.
>
> > > Well the Palestinian people elected one party� and the US and Israel would
> > > only support the losers. Radical changes are going to need to be made,,�
> > > but
> > > There is the lingering doubt that the will is there. I am hoping for
> > > health
> > > care,� but as long as the politicians are exempt from the bribery laws it
> > > will never happen.
>
> > > I am looking at the difference in countries.� My wife is the officer in
> > > charge of quality control for the fire department.. and she was offered
> > > tickets for her and me to a polo match free. Well we had to turn them down
> > > and make a report of it. It has to do with honesty in government.
>
> > > The truth is I am glad to see that there are people watching and much more
> > > of it needs to occur, every where ,, accepting business gifts should be
> > > totally unacceptable behavior, both by the giver and the receiver.
> > > Allan
>
> > > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
>
> > >> Here is Noam Chomsky's take on it:
>
> > >>http://books.google.com/books?id=yDhGoR6yU8AC&dq=Noam+Chomsky+anarchy...
>
> > >> On Jun 27, 4:27�pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > Collective anger is interesting . It leaves me wondering who is
> > >> > controlling
> > >> > it. In Red Handed discussion �there is tremendous violence demonstrated
> > >> > and
> > >> > used for control. As for the people being angry. could they be
> > >> > frustrated,
> > >> > with supposed religious leadership using violence and fear to control,
> > >> > it
> > >> > would seem to be more frustration than anger.
>
> > >> > To me it seems in the majority of people have a deep seated need to
> > >> > believe
> > >> > in something greater than them selves. looking at Iran, I can not help
> > >> > but
> > >> > wonder what is really going on.
> > >> > Allan
>
> > >> > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
> > >> > wrote:
>
> > >> > > This is a very nice examination of the emotion contained in the
> > >> > > anarchy that ensues as a result of suppression, Vam. �It is
> > >> > > fascinating (and horrifying) to watch the collective expression of
> > >> > > anger in anarchy.
>
> > >> > > I think that anger, and its primary emotion fear, are ego based
> > >> > > emotions. �If we are witnessing ourselves expressing less and less
> > >> > > anger, it is probably because we are not primarily centered in our
> > >> > > ego. �Ego based desire - what I want - and its frustration is often
> > >> > > the cause, and if expressed without consideration of others, can be
> > >> > > destructive. �Ego based anger can also be expressed in consideration
> > >> > > of others, and the outcome is usually more palatable for all
> > >> > > involved.
>
> > >> > > If our view looks beyond our ego, includes the broader perspectives
> > >> > > of
> > >> > > self as other and absolute truth in spirit, the integrated expression
> > >> > > of anger simply becomes I am not and I am. Here is where anger of
> > >> > > others becomes a mirror to shadow self, and anger arising in self can
> > >> > > be witnessed in patterns that have a more soulful revelation of who I
> > >> > > am.
>
> > >> > > �Beyond that, there is only love and I am.
>
> > > --
> > > (
> > > �)
> > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text -
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