Oh, I don't know, Orn....sometimes, you really do have to be crazy to be honest.
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:14 PM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>wrote: > > “…And quite successful I might add.” – dj > > Success nor sincerity have much to do with honesty and for sure, pure > emotionalism and insanity don’t. > > > On Jul 2, 2:25 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > I generally agree with most of what you've said except the last sentence. > > > > My main point is that his > > > > > ramblings and tirades have nothing to do with honesty. -orn > > > > The man is sincere. Kooky, without a doubt, but he believes what he > > says. Everything else you say about Beck could apply to any number of > > well meaning weirdos pounding in their sandbox. We may laugh at them > > but, like I said earlier, sometimes they hit on a truth. Keep > > watching. Frankly I'm surprised you watch his show Orn. Most of the > > liberals i know would rather scrub themselves with sandpaper and take > > an alcohol bath rather then watch the dreaded FNN. > > If you base your opinion on the writings of others and have never > > watched his show you aren't getting the whole picture. Same with > > O'Reilly. Clips on youtube of them freaking out isn't a good > > representation of their show. And yeah, it's a show. Entertainment. > > And quite successful I might add. > > > > dj > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:33 AM, ornamentalmind<[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > “we need people like Glen Beck et al. to keep the big boys honest.” – > > > dj > > > > > I guess I don’t see it for this person. To me, Beck transcends kookdom > > > entirely. His thinking is in no way logical and coherent. His > > > presentation is based on drama and emotions. I stop here. Of course > > > people have the right to watch/listen to him. They have the right to > > > join the KKK and read Ted Bundy or Kaczynski too. My guess is that, > > > like all infotainment today, he attracts the confused and ignorant > > > that feel akin to his presentations. My main point is that his > > > ramblings and tirades have nothing to do with honesty. > > > > > On Jul 2, 12:18 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> I agree that convict testimony is suspect and damn near useless. > > >> Generally I believe the most likely reason/outcome/motivation is the > > >> correct one. If I was an evil CIA conspirator and I thought this guy > > >> had the goods on me he would have fallen down the steps or been in a > > >> car accident or committed suicide long ago. If I wanted to leave a > > >> message to anyone else thinking of ratting me out I'd of just made him > > >> disappear. A la Jimmy Hoffa. > > > > >> Conspiracy theories can be fun sitting around the campfire but most > > >> people discount them for a very good reason. They just aren't very > > >> plausible. That said, occasionally the kook is right. So I say keep > > >> at it. I support yellow journalism and muckraking as important > > >> aspects of freedom and I would never attempt to silence them. As > > >> silly as they sometimes sound; we need people like Glen Beck et al. to > > >> keep the big boys honest. > > > > >> dj > > > > >> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Slip Disc<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > New charges were filed in 2004, however, after two Denver jail > inmates > > >> > came forward to say Sonnenfeld had confessed to them during his time > > >> > in custody. By then, Sonnenfeld had remarried and was living in > > >> > Argentina. << article excerpt. > > > > >> > Don, really, what did the two Denver jail inmates get for coming > > >> > forward? Why would Sonnenfeld confess to two jail inmates during a > > >> > time that he was simply in custody? It's not like he was convicted > > >> > and serving a life sentence in a federal prison, doesn't sound > > >> > right. > > >> > If they wanted to eliminate Sonnenfeld then what would stop them > from > > >> > coming up with a trumped up jail inmate confession? It's too > > >> > predictable. Maybe the inmates had personal/racial dislike for > > >> > Sonnenfeld. > > >> > The other videographer, Chesnutt, in all likelyhood might as well > > >> > received pressure/warnings and coerced into offer discrediting views > > >> > against Sonnenfeld. > > > > >> > We can't just brush the 9/11 conspiracy theories under the carpet as > > >> > if they don't have any plausibility, that Bush family, collusive > with > > >> > the Pentagon, facilitated or allowed the attacks to take place in > > >> > order to initiate the ensuing invasion. It is common knowledge that > > >> > the extended Bush family has had ties to Nazi activity in the past, > > >> > those willing to eliminate thousands for the sake of a political > > >> > ideal, so it is possible that collateral damage is once again > > >> > concomitant of the New World Order of which GH Bush spoke of. > > > > >> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/911_conspiracy_theories > > > > >> >http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar > > > > >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc7i0wCFf8g > > > > >> > On Jun 30, 11:48 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> I didn't remember the name but while reading the article I > remembered > > >> >> the story. This guy murdered his wife(allegedly) and is trying to > > >> >> gain political asylum to avoid going back to prison. He's a bit > loony > > >> >> as well. A 'troofer.' Here's a more balanced article on the > subject. > > >> >> Seems obvious to me he's bent. Clearly, if he actually had > evidence > > >> >> to support his claims he would have put it on the internet long > before > > >> >> now. He could have used the 'truth' to save him. He doesn't > because > > >> >> he's not telling it and he doesn't have it. So I believe. > > > > >> >> > http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_55... > > > > >> >> dj > > > > >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:42 PM, ornamentalmind< > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >> > Kurt Sonnenfeld : Exclusive interview > > >> >> > 9/11 FEMA videographer at Ground Zero goes public > > > > >> >> >http://www.voltairenet.org/article160636.html > > > > >> >> > thoughts?....- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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