Personally I for one do not
> even recall a single song that Jackson did. -iam

That confirms it.  You are a Visitor.  Since you come in peace I won't
turn you over to the authorities.

dj


On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 2:27 AM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> wrote:
> Now Obama is fleeing to Russia rather than appear at
> Jackson's funeral- let him take his i-pod of tunes.
>
> Why would Obama attending the funeral of a pedophile be more important than
> flying to Russia to attend to national affairs? Personally I for one do not
> even recall a single song that Jackson did.
> Allan
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:16 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Rule has often meant control of populations by religion or laws/
>> documents. It has been dictated through power. At this point, I don't
>> believe my government or fellow voters have my best interests at
>> heart- nor MSM- nor celebrities. On the other hand, I feel blessed to
>> have been born an American and had the courage of my immigrant
>> grandparents. How unlike the newcomers those homesteaders, loggers,
>> miners seem. The challenge of early Christians and barbarians doomed a
>> great empire. The barons challenged John I with the Magna Carta. Henry
>> VIII challeged the RCC. The middle class challeged aristocracy. We
>> challenged the British Empire- though we said we would save it down
>> the line. Now Obama is fleeing to Russia rather than appear at
>> Jackson's funeral- let him take his i-pod of tunes.
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2:52 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > "The rule of law needs to be returned to the American people"
>> >
>> > First, it should read 'the people of the world'.
>> > "The rule of law" has never been in the hands of the people, to be
>> > returned. Since the beginning of civilization laws have been
>> > established to "rule" the people. The wonderful idea, "of the people,
>> > by the people and for the people", has been and will continue to be
>> > consumed by the first part, unless the system (pattern) is changed.
>> >
>> > "The rule of law" is at the bottom line in the decision making process
>> > of mankind. Rule (law), something predetermined, is given authority
>> > over our 'Feeling' of what is right or wrong in a here and now
>> > situation.
>> > Until we change that, we're going down the tube.
>> >
>> > peace & Love
>> >
>> > On Jul 3, 6:24 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Don this is a very important document along with the bill of rights.
>> > > On the
>> > > 4th of July we need to examine how they have been violated by any
>> > > administration especially the Bush administration over his term in
>> > > office,
>> > > examine the patriot act for violations of those basic rights.  and the
>> > > activities of all government agencies and corporations for violations
>> > > and
>> > > infringing on these rights.
>> >
>> > > The rule of law needs to be returned to the American people getting
>> > > them out
>> > > from under the oppressive rule of the corporations. it needs to be one
>> > > man
>> > > one vote, with no super votes.. Corporations need to be stripped of
>> > > their
>> > > rights as citizens. refusing them super citizenship. When corporations
>> > > commit a felony (and they do) they need to be stripped of all legal
>> > > protection exposing the share holders of that corporation to the full
>> > > extent
>> > > of damages for the crimes their corporations commit. No one should be
>> > > allowed to profit from the commission of crimes.
>> >
>> > > Taxes need to be implemented so that all people pay according to their
>> > > means, translated the more you make the more you pay and rightly so.
>> > > Corporations moving money over seas need to have that money taxed so
>> > > thy pay
>> > > their fair share of taxes.
>> >
>> > > When these start to unfold then the USA will be the last great hope.
>> > > as it
>> > > is it is simple , I am saddened to say is counted among the failed
>> > > states.
>> > > Allan
>> >
>> > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > > Ya know, this is really just one big, fat, apology...
>> >
>> > > > IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
>> > > > The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
>> >
>> > > > When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one
>> > > > people
>> > > > to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with
>> > > > another
>> > > > and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal
>> > > > station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle
>> > > > them,
>> > > > a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they
>> > > > should
>> > > > declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
>> >
>> > > > We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
>> > > > equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain
>> > > > unalienable
>> > > > Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of
>> > > > Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted
>> > > > among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the
>> > > > governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive
>> > > > of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish
>> > > > it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such
>> > > > principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall
>> > > > seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence,
>> > > > indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be
>> > > > changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all
>> > > > experience
>> > > > hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are
>> > > > sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which
>> > > > they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and
>> > > > usurpations,
>> > > > pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them
>> > > > under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to
>> > > > throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their
>> > > > future
>> > > > security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies;
>> > > > and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their
>> > > > former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of
>> > > > Great
>> > > > Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all
>> > > > having
>> > > > in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these
>> > > > States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
>> >
>> > > > He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary
>> > > > for the public good.
>> >
>> > > > He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and
>> > > > pressing
>> > > > importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent
>> > > > should
>> > > > be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to
>> > > > attend
>> > > > to them.
>> >
>> > > > He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large
>> > > > districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right
>> > > > of
>> > > > Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and
>> > > > formidable to tyrants only.
>> >
>> > > > He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual,
>> > > > uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public
>> > > > Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with
>> > > > his measures.
>> >
>> > > > He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with
>> > > > manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
>> >
>> > > > He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause
>> > > > others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of
>> > > > Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their
>> > > > exercise;
>> > > > the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of
>> > > > invasion from without, and convulsions within.
>> >
>> > > > He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for
>> > > > that
>> > > > purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners;
>> > > > refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and
>> > > > raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
>> >
>> > > > He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his
>> > > > Assent
>> > > > to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
>> >
>> > > > He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of
>> > > > their
>> > > > offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
>> >
>> > > > He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of
>> > > > Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
>> >
>> > > > He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the
>> > > > Consent of our legislatures.
>> >
>> > > > He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior
>> > > > to
>> > > > the Civil Power.
>> >
>> > > > He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign
>> > > > to
>> > > > our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent
>> > > > to
>> > > > their Acts of pretended Legislation:
>> >
>> > > > For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
>> >
>> > > > For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders
>> > > > which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
>> >
>> > > > For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
>> >
>> > > > For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
>> >
>> > > > For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
>> >
>> > > > For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
>> >
>> > > > For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring
>> > > > Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and
>> > > > enlarging
>> > > > its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit
>> > > > instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these
>> > > > Colonies
>> >
>> > > > For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and
>> > > > altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
>> >
>> > > > For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves
>> > > > invested
>> > > > with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
>> >
>> > > > He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his
>> > > > Protection and waging War against us.
>> >
>> > > > He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and
>> > > > destroyed the lives of our people.
>> >
>> > > > He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries
>> > > > to
>> > > > compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun
>> > > > with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the
>> > > > most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized
>> > > > nation.
>> >
>> > > > He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high
>> > > > Seas
>> > > > to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of
>> > > > their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
>> >
>> > > > He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has
>> > > > endeavoured
>> > > > to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian
>> > > > Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished
>> > > > destruction
>> > > > of all ages, sexes and conditions.
>> >
>> > > > In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress
>> > > > in
>> > > > the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered
>> > > > only
>> > > > by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by
>> > > > every
>> > > > act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free
>> > > > people.
>> >
>> > > > Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We
>> > > > have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature
>> > > > to
>> > > > extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them
>> > > > of
>> > > > the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have
>> > > > appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have
>> > > > conjured
>> > > > them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations,
>> > > > which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence.
>> > > > They too have been deaf to
>> >
>> > ...
>> >
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>
> --
> (
>  )
> I_D Allan
>
> >
>

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